Who is the most protected fighter in boxing today?

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  • BangEM
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    #71
    Originally posted by Toffee
    Every top fighter is protected. Who is making huge fights? Fighting worthy challengers? They pick and choose based on who gives them the best return for the least risk. That's what Ruiz was for Joshua - picks do go wrong, just as Ortiz could have for Wilder.

    I can't believe anyone argues that Wilder hasn't been protected. That's his promoter's job. The big difference between him and others is that he's protected by the WBC too!

    But the most protected right now is Fury. He's so protected that you don't even really think about it. He's maintaining status, maybe even building status, without fighting anyone who can even threaten him. Isn't that the the definition of protected?
    Fu..ck out of here, AJ hasn't been protected from anyone. And that's the reason why Hearn the scumbag picked Ruiz because he keeps making the guy carry the whole sport on his shoulder, without giving him a breather and it backfired.

    Josh Taylor is another guy who hasn't been protected at all.

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      #72
      Its wilder, and heres FIVE reasons.

      Yes he fought Ortiz and Fury .

      1.He fought Ortiz knowing he was older then he said and not passing his medical prior to the fight showed you why Wilder took that fight,his team don't take big fights unless theres an angle.

      2. He took the fury fight for obvious reasons. He hyped the lineal lable up thinking Fury would lose bc he lost 100 pounds and was told by Finkel Fury wasn't ready.

      3. Beyond the two above , when did you ever see a manager take the mic of his fighter and call him a baby not ready for another title holder ?


      4. Wilder opponents have also been given short notice ,some have even got magically put in the top10 before fighting him.


      5. a price of 100 milion could not get team Wilder to commit to a undisputed fight,you will never see that again either. lol


      Wilder is over 40 fights now, if this guy hasn't proven its him yet nothing will and taking a 49 yr old Ortiz rematch ,he better hope he wins or hes going to look foolish declining team Joshua offers.He lucked out against Fury ,he lucked out in the first Ortiz fight too.

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      • BangEM
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        #73
        Originally posted by Idunnoshet
        Sorry Frankie stopped reading when you generalized your answer with the typical " you Yanks " . That just tells me you have no answer so you have to cast a wide net .

        Funny how posters are always accusing us U.S posters of being nationalistic yet they're the ones Always bringing up Nationalities .

        Check my posts . If you look hard enough you Might find one where I criticize AJ . But you'll also see that Pre - Ruiz I had AJ as the favorite to beat Wilder.
        Who the fu..ck is Frankie? And why do you weirdos love accusing posters of being an alt when you can't win an argument and you're getting your arse handed to you? At this rate, I might as well be everyone on Boxingscene's alt. What's wrong with you muppets for fu..ck sake?

        You yanks are the most nationalistic people out there apart from North Koreans and the ultra-nationalists in Eastern Europe. Your flag, anthem and screaming "Murica" everywhere mean more to you than anything. And you think the world revolves around your fat arses, lool.

        Anyway, you might be an outlier. However, that doesn't negate the fact that most of you yanks hate AJ and you doing it passionately. Heck, you've podcasts in your country that aren't even boxing podcasts but every time these idiots talk about boxing - it's always about hate speeches directed at AJ. Like seriously, did the guy fu..ck your president's wife? The way most of you hate this guy, you'd think he was the one who bombed Pearl Harbor and he was also responsible for 9/11. Get a grip - hate consumes people.

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        • chrisJS
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          #74
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          The Charlo’s

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          • REdrUm0351
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            #75
            Originally posted by KillaMane26
            Its simple.

            Wilder basically jumped into boxing at a late age, went to the olympics, and now is Top 3 Heavyweight.
            With no real boxing skills.

            He a underdog. People always bring up his bad boxing skills but thats why he deserves respect. He got this far with those same bad boxing skills.

            So its like how long are dudes gonna talk shyt about his bad boxing skills when he continue to accomplish so much in this sport surrounded by guys who start boxing when the came out the womb
            Wilder does have bad boxing skills but he also has a sturdy chin, a decent long jab, good stamina, and ATG power that carries late. If you take all of that and put it in a division like HW where guys tend to not move as much as smaller divisions and tire sooner it makes Wilder a threat. Yes this era isn't that great but Wilders power, chin, and athelticism makes him somewhat competitive in any era. He could lose the whole fight but he is literally one punch from winning at any moment. Vulnerable? Yes but that also means exciting fights because of that vulnerability.

            I thought he lost to Fury but Fury is another anomally. Hes a big guy with a slick skill set and while he goes down when hit his ability to recuperate is amazing. I wish the era was stronger but I could see either or competing with previous eras because of the attributes they have.

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #76
              There are loads.

              Anthony Joshua

              Oscar Valdez

              Gilberto Ramirez

              Leo Santa Cruz (post Frampton)

              Gary Russell Jr

              Gervonta Davis (post Pedraza)

              Even Tyson Fury (since he signed with ESPN)

              Probably missed a few names as well.

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                #77
                Originally posted by Derranged
                Wilder isn't protected.
                I agree, he was protected. But from 2018 onwards his level of opposition has been good.

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                • Idunnoshet
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by BangEM
                  Who the fu..ck is Frankie? And why do you weirdos love accusing posters of being an alt when you can't win an argument and you're getting your arse handed to you? At this rate, I might as well be everyone on Boxingscene's alt. What's wrong with you muppets for fu..ck sake?

                  You yanks are the most nationalistic people out there apart from North Koreans and the ultra-nationalists in Eastern Europe. Your flag, anthem and screaming "Murica" everywhere mean more to you than anything. And you think the world revolves around your fat arses, lool.

                  Anyway, you might be an outlier. However, that doesn't negate the fact that most of you yanks hate AJ and you doing it passionately. Heck, you've podcasts in your country that aren't even boxing podcasts but every time these idiots talk about boxing - it's always about hate speeches directed at AJ. Like seriously, did the guy fu..ck your president's wife? The way most of you hate this guy, you'd think he was the one who bombed Pearl Harbor and he was also responsible for 9/11. Get a grip - hate consumes people.
                  My bad if I thought you were Frankie2jabs . My mistake .
                  But tell me ... How did I get my ass handed to me on this argument ?
                  You never answered my original question . You just went on a rant about " damn Yanks , Wilder's a bum etc. "

                  Again casting a wide net .
                  But I give you credit . Playing the victim is a pretty clever way of going about it . With the whole " only reason We Hate on Wilder is because All you Americans trash AJ " .

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                  • BangEM
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Idunnoshet
                    My bad if I thought you were Frankie2jabs . My mistake .
                    But tell me ... How did I get my ass handed to me on this argument ?
                    You never answered my original question . You just went on a rant about " damn Yanks , Wilder's a bum etc. "

                    Again casting a wide net .
                    But I give you credit . Playing the victim is a pretty clever way of going about it . With the whole " only reason We Hate on Wilder is because All you Americans trash AJ " .
                    No one is playing victim here. I'm just posting facts and the pattern with you yanks.

                    And no one has time to hate on Wilder. The guy is an irrelevant bum-beating one-trick pony who's the most protected boxer in history. If he knows when to shut his ebonics speaking arse up and stop being a big arse dumb clown, no one is going to make fun of him. He just doesn't know when to keep that piehole sealed due to his jealousy. Coupled with you yank minions all over social media and the hateful nonsense you spam everywhere.

                    Wilder has been a pro for 11 years and he only became relevant 2 years ago. And we all know why. So that alone should tell you no one gives a fu..ck about Wilder.

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                    • Idunnoshet
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BangEM
                      No one is playing victim here. I'm just posting facts and the pattern with you yanks.

                      And no one has time to hate on Wilder. The guy is an irrelevant bum-beating one-trick pony who's the most protected boxer in history. If he knows when to shut his ebonics speaking arse up and stop being a big arse dumb clown, no one is going to make fun of him. He just doesn't know when to keep that piehole sealed due to his jealousy. Coupled with you yank minions all over social media and the hateful nonsense you spam everywhere.

                      Wilder has been a pro for 11 years and he only became relevant 2 years ago. And we all know why. So that alone should tell you no one gives a fu..ck about Wilder.
                      No one gives a F*** about Wilder ?
                      I'm about done with you . When your Hate for someone is so strong that it has you saying nonsense. There's no point in trying to have a reasonable discussion .

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