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  • Sustanon
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    #11
    Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
    Pac would school Loma, but Crawford beats Pac's ass
    your crystal ball fails on its 2nd reading..
    PAC will beat the hell out of TCrawford

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    • FredRekk
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      #12
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      Just let it go! Pac is an old man now. He's had his time. At this point in his career, fighting the elites will only run the risk of him getting seriously hurt.
      He just beat Elite WW Keith Thurman. Did u not see the fight?

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      • kdd
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        #13
        Originally posted by boliodogs
        You have everything all figured out. It's too bad you are wrong as hell. First, Loma and Pac are never going to fight each other because their is too much size difference. Pac's idea fighting weight is 140 and Loma's perfect fighting weight is 130 so they are 10 pounds apart. A great fighter like Loma would be crazy to give a great fighter like Pac a 10 pound weight advantage even if he is 41. A fair fight would be for them to fight at 135 and Pac won't go that low. That fight will never happen so just forget about it. 2nd Crawford would beat Pac and keep his place at or near the top of most pfp best lists. Both Pac and Crawford fought Horn. Pac beat Horn and got robbed but it went the full 12 rounds and Horn may have won a few rounds. Then Crawford fought Horn and absolutely slaughtered him and won every round by a mile and knocked Horn out. That's the difference between today's Pac and today's Crawford.
        That’s just excuses man. Lomachenko walking weight is 145lbs and pac is 147 cuz he is older now. But lomachenko is the natural bigger guy than pac. Lomachenko is 5’7 and pac is a former flyweight and is 5’5 . You just take pac for granted cuz he is so special.

        That’s not how boxing works bruh. Pac beat up horn in that fight and Crawford beat him up even more and than this other guy beat up horn even more.. this is boxing .. the wear n tear is real. Learn boxing man. Pac man has more wear n tear than the whole welterweight class. He shouldn’t have beaten Thurman . Pac SHOULD LOSE TO CRAWFORD. The number 1 p4p king should beat a 41 yr old ! Prime pac? Bruh forget about it. Pac would destroy Crawford. Would you be surprise if a 41 yr old pac beat prime Crawford? That’s how special pacquaio is..

        Learn boxing bruh

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        • champion4ever
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          #14
          Originally posted by FredRekk
          He just beat Elite WW Keith Thurman. Did u not see the fight?
          Thurman had just came back from a two year lay off, while healing and recovering from an elbow injury. In addition, he looked awful in his first fight back from that injury in which he was nearly KO.

          Which was the reason why Team Pac chose him as their next opponent in the first place as opposed to Erroll Spence; Whom Manny had given a handshake agreement to fight as his next opponent.

          So no. Keith wasn't elite when Pac fought him because he wasn't at full strength or at his physical peak. Both his timing and conditioning was off because of it and yet he still gave Manny a very tough and difficult fight.

          That was about an eighty percent Keith Thurman Pac challenged. Now just imagine what will happen to a 41 year old Pac, if he was to challenge a Bud Crawford or a Lomachenko at their physical peaks and at full strength after struggling with an eighty percent Keith Thurman?

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            #15
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            Thurman had just came back from a two year lay off, while healing and recovering from an elbow injury. In addition, he looked awful in his first fight back from that injury in which he was nearly KO.

            Which was the reason why Team Pac chose him as their next opponent in the first place as opposed to Erroll Spence; Whom Manny had given a handshake agreement to fight as his next opponent.

            So no. Keith wasn't elite when Pac fought him because he wasn't at full strength or at his physical peak. Both his timing and conditioning was off because of it and yet he still gave Manny a very tough and difficult fight.

            That was about an eighty percent Keith Thurman Pac challenged. Now just imagine what will happen to a 41 year old Pac, if he was to challenge a Bud Crawford or a Lomachenko at their physical peaks and at full strength after struggling with an eighty percent Keith Thurman?
            Nonstop Excuses back at it I see? Lol.

            That was Keith One Time Thurman in FULL HEALTH and conditioning with a “tune up fight” already under his belt.
            He himself didn’t make any excuses so stop 🛑

            Pac smoked him.
            GTFOH with excuses buddy.

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              #16
              Man, Pac's going to seriously get hurt if he continues next year and this ain't like Hopkins or Jones who feasted on bums, Pac's taking on young, elite studs.

              And at 40, Pac can't afford to take any breaks, that old man body has to stay active. If Pac insists on continuing, he should be given one last gimme fight against someone like Amir Khan in the Philippines and call it a career.

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                #17
                Originally posted by FredRekk
                Nonstop Excuses back at it I see? Lol.

                That was Keith One Time Thurman in FULL HEALTH and conditioning with a “tune up fight” already under his belt.
                He himself didn’t make any excuses so stop ��

                Pac smoked him.
                GTFOH with excuses buddy.
                Let's just forget about Keith Thurman for a second. I still say that if the 41 year old Manny Pacquiao were to challenge either Terence Crawford or Vasily Lomachenko at his age and at this current stage of his career, he still runs the risk of getting seriously hurt. I still stand by that statement because he ate an awful lot of punches in his last fight.

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                • puga
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                  #18
                  easier said than done of course but i'd like to see these fights

                  pac vs loma at 135

                  pac vs crawford at 147

                  neither of these fights is a mismatch but pac should get rid of freddie roach if he fights crawford imo...you don't want a corner that thinks your opponent is bad match up for you obviously
                  Last edited by puga; 09-01-2019, 02:45 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    Let's just forget about Keith Thurman for a second. I still say that if the 41 year old Manny Pacquiao were to challenge either Terence Crawford or Vasily Lomachenko at his age and at this current stage of his career, he still runs the risk of getting seriously hurt. I still stand by that statement because he ate an awful lot of punches in his last fight.
                    Yeah he ate a lot of punches and Thurman hits much harder than crawford and Loma.

                    Pacquiao even at this age destroys Loma.

                    PAC Crawford still 50/50.

                    But what’s even more sad is that every guy is calling out Pacquiao instead of each other.

                    Why Spence not fighting Crawford yet? Or neither of them have even fought Keith Thurman, or heck even Danny G.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by FredRekk
                      Yeah he ate a lot of punches and Thurman hits much harder than crawford and Loma.

                      Pacquiao even at this age destroys Loma.

                      PAC Crawford still 50/50.

                      But what’s even more sad is that every guy is calling out Pacquiao instead of each other.

                      Why Spence not fighting Crawford yet? Or neither of them have even fought Keith Thurman, or heck even Danny G.
                      I wholeheartedly agree that the young guns should be fighting one another than to be calling out a 41 year old man. However, as long as Pac remains an active fighter, then he becomes the money man of the division that everyone wants to fight.

                      Actually, I think that Loma would do a worser number on Pac than Bud Crawford would because he is smaller, lighter and quicker and would get his punches off much faster than Manny Pacquiao at this age and stage of his career.

                      Also, not to mention that Loma is about ten years younger than Pac too. Personally, I feel since Mayweather has made it known that he is not coming out of retirement; Manny should do at least one more cash out fight before calling it a career by retiring himself.

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