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Barry Hearn: Lomachenko is very good but he's nothing special and not an ATG

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  • #31
    Originally posted by turnedup View Post
    ATG has always been subjective just like p4p. Is he special? Yes undeniably. Is he an elite fighter? Yes undeniably. He’s got what fourteen fights and has captured how many belts in how many divisions? I think that reality makes some wonder what could’ve been if he were younger or started his pro run earlier in life.
    If anything Loma SHOWS that fighting bums to pad your record is silly if you have a good amateur background. He will last longer because he hasn't had to endure the unnecessary wear from fighting no names (yes even no names can wear you down if you fight enough of them).

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    • #32
      Originally posted by strykr619 View Post
      If anything Loma SHOWS that fighting bums to pad your record is silly if you have a good amateur background. He will last longer because he hasn't had to endure the unnecessary wear from fighting no names (yes even no names can wear you down if you fight enough of them).
      He’s got more mileage on him than just about anyone in the sport including pac. That many fights in the amateurs has a price tag too. People act like because it’s headgear it’s not that bad..ligaments, hands, knees, ankles, shoulders, etc.

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      • #33
        that's his opinion, but majority knows loma is a special fighter, a boxing calculator

        but yes , he is not an atg....not yet at least

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        • #34
          Originally posted by cally83 View Post
          Absolutely. I'd rank Campbell P4P level with Chisora. Fury beat Chisora in a 10 Round pasting where I'm not sure Chisora landed one shot. Loma's skill is overrated, very good, but overrated.
          Hold on you are basing your Fury p4p ranking on his win over ....Del Boy. Some cracking green you got there pal.

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          • #35
            If you think Lomachenko is the goat , there's a 99 percent chance you probably used to post on sto rm front.

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            • #36
              He’s not an all-time great yet. He’s got elite level talent though and should make it as an all-timer.

              He’s ruining a lot of lives on this forum and making grown men have meltdowns which I find hilarious.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by MulaKO View Post
                You gotta be fughin kidding
                Tyson Fury atg , really
                Over Loma
                Wow
                Either I’m fughin high or your fughed
                I can't think of one opponent Tyson Fury has faced that outsized him. Alexander Ustinov is the only one Fury pulled out of that fight with an injury from memory.

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                • #38
                  I think Loma is an all-time great at 126-130 already.
                  Easily top 7 in either divisions.

                  And I'm not too sure I'd pick Sanchez, Floyd, Saddler, Pepp or Arguello over him.
                  Or JCC or Floyd at 130 over him.

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                  • #39
                    How can anyone call him an ATG at this point? Wait till his career and then determine if he is or not.

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                    • #40
                      Well perhaps he isn't nothing special and an ATG but at least kicked Luke Campbell's ass; Who fought like a scared man. He had a little guy in front of him that he almost knockout and buckled on several occasions and yet he is the one doing all the running. What kind of asinine rubbish is that?

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