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  • #31
    Originally posted by Satir View Post
    Canelo has a bad tendance and history of fighting guys out of their prime and not at their comfortable weights
    List them,then compare that to his supposed rivals like ggg charlo andrade & others. You'll surely see that that doesn't make sense & that its rare for a fighter to be able to fight nothing but opponents in their prime when most of them were nobodies in their supposed prime. Canelo has faced more difficult competition than anyone the last 10 years,that says everything,the rest is just hating due to Hate

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    • #32
      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      He complained that Tunde was rubbing his chest too hard.
      Yarde pushes Tunde's hands, literally hits his hands for rubbing his chest because he's hurt

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
        How old did he look vs Yarde ???
        ... old enough, and washed up... the problem with Kova is that he even admitted that he was drinking during the Chilemba camp... Curtis, dear: you don't really know Russians... once they start drinking they are literally off!!!

        (do you happen to know anything about the great Vyacheslav Lemeshev???)...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by kushking View Post
          List them,then compare that to his supposed rivals like ggg charlo andrade & others. You'll surely see that that doesn't make sense & that its rare for a fighter to be able to fight nothing but opponents in their prime when most of them were nobodies in their supposed prime. Canelo has faced more difficult competition than anyone the last 10 years,that says everything,the rest is just hating due to Hate
          all of his marquee bouts , Angulo, Lara, Khan, Javez Jr, Jacobs, all had to deal with Canelo weight and or rehydration clauses, the big names like Mosley, Mayweather, Golovkin, Cotto were all 35+, out of their prime

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          • #35
            Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
            ... old enough, and washed up... the problem with Kova is that he even admitted that he was drinking during the Chilemba camp... Curtis, dear: you don't really know Russians... once they start drinking they are literally off!!!

            (do you happen to know anything about the great Vyacheslav Lemeshev???)...
            Put a number on it and tell me whos the guy to batter him into retirement (has to be his next fight, right ?)

            And nope. Never heard of him. Pls don't stray away from the age/who retires Kov topic

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Satir View Post
              all of his marquee bouts , Angulo, Lara, Khan, Javez Jr, Jacobs, all had to deal with Canelo weight and or rehydration clauses, the big names like Mosley, Mayweather, Golovkin, Cotto were all 35+, out of their prime
              You act as if he was supposed to step in a time machine to fight whatever atg legends when they were in their primes,the fact is he fought Mosley 1 fight after pac & he was 21 yrs old,what other fighters can say comparable to that?

              And the cw fights have basically all been of benefit to his opponent because he didn't drag them up to full 160 like ggg does.

              & him having a next day weigh in so what,thats the same thing as IBF rules,& the other fighters are free to gain as much afterwards anyways,& Jacobs blew it off anyways which meant again nelo was at a disadvantage vs a much bigger prime fighter who still did nothing. Would you rather he fought cotto at full 160 against his wishes? How about Con,or Mayweather at 154 against Mayweathers stipulation when he intentionally weight drained nelo? Fact is Canelo has accommodated his opponents by fighting all the named fighters around his weight at catchweights they were comfortable with & it was 1 lb removed from 154 anyways.

              You say rehydration clauses as if he benefitted the 1 time he imposed the same clause as Jacobs had been doing in several recent fights as ibf champ, knowing Jacobs was at a huge advantage and in his prime all because he blew it off nelo didn't,& nelo has been accused of being a cruiserweight bully yet now when convenient its cheating for "giant nelo" to not rehydrate?
              Last edited by kushking; 08-31-2019, 05:40 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by MDPopescu
                ... old enough, and washed up... the problem with Kova is that he even admitted that he was drinking during the Chilemba camp... Curtis, dear: you don't really know Russians... once they start drinking they are literally off!!!

                (do you happen to know anything about the great Vyacheslav Lemeshev???)...
                Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
                Put a number on it and tell me who's the guy to better him into retirement (has to be his next fight, right ?)

                And nope. Never heard of him. Pls don't stray away from the age/who retires Kov topic
                1) ... All "the Russian school" fighters would beat Kova right now (Gvozdyk, Beterbiev, and Bivol)...

                2) Vyacheslav Lemeshev was a great Russian Olympic champion who quit boxing because of his drinking problem, and eventually died because of it...

                (Watch this and notice the similarities...):

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                • #38
                  Sublime cherry-picking by the Golden Boy team.

                  This fight, depending on where it ends up, is more Kovalev's to lose than Alvarez's to win.

                  If I hear any catchweight nonsense then Alvarez will diminish even further in my estimation of him.

                  Sidenote: If Canelo pulls it off; There is the issue of the LHW division seemingly on the cusp of a unification process. If it gets as far as one fighter holding three belts, looking to pick up the WBO belt, and granted Alvarez is still in possession of it, does he have the cajones to take on the likes of Bivol, Gvozdyk, or Beterbiev?
                  Of course not. By then he will be seeking out a 39-year-old Golovkin to reluctantly address their third stanza - most likely.

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                  • #39
                    Kovalev is a shot fighter. He can’t take it to the body. This will be Rocky Fielding all over again. But the fight will do good business 💰

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                    • #40
                      Is it a division too high against a hard straight punching Kovalev? Or, will the younger Canelo chip away to the body and wait for the tree to fall?

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