He always been the odd man out. But this time, he's finally at the right place. DAZN/Matchroom, will get him the fights that he's looking for because, he is the champ after all..
A Charlo fight would be interesting because their both looking for a quality opponent but I don't see Charlo coming off of Fox Networks for that fight....
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Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View PostAnd when Lara calls you out, and you respond by saying you would only fight him as a last resort because he is boring, that is a duck. How is an offer going to be made when the guy comes out and outright says he won't fight your guy?
He and Decubas became scam artists
feasting on Rodriguez, Gausha, Foreman,
making $1 millon for each bum.
Who the fk cares if he says you're boring?
Canelo knew he's boring, yet he still fought him.
Point was Decubas had the influence and power to make the fight with Andrade, which would sell more than these freaking bums they were fighting.
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Originally posted by genrick View PostWhy is this guy keeps repeating this nonsense?
Decubas and Lara never made an offer to Andrade.
Ducking only becomes official when offers were made.
Stick that into your thick head doe.
That is a clear avoidance. You don't leave a mandatory position to fight Charlo for the wbc to fight some unknown German for a regular title.
And when Lara calls you out, and you respond by saying you would only fight him as a last resort because he is boring, that is a duck. How is an offer going to be made when the guy comes out and outright says he won't fight your guy?
Can't believe you're falling for that offer nonsense. That's the same excuse Thurman made and it doesn't stick because how is a promoter gonna send an offer to a guy who makes it a point to come out and publicly say he ain't gonna fight your guy, and then when called out on it, he turns around and claims no offer was made? No offer was made because you publicly stated your intention to not fight that guy no matter what. That's exactly what Andrade did.
Lara didn't make an offer when Andrade was mandatory, yeah, okay, he didn't make an offer, but the WBA announced they were gonna order a purse bid a month later. Who then decided to vacate after that announcement? I'll tell you who, not Lara. If he was ducking Andrade so much, why is Andrade the one who vacated his regular belt and not Lara?
If Charlo ducking Andrade so much, why is Andrade the one who sacrificed his mandatory shot at Charlo to fight for the REGULAR WBA title?
Why is Andrade the one vacating mandatory shots if he is the one being ducked?
GTFOH with that "no offer was made" bullshieet and face reality.
Andrade is the one walking away from title shots, the champs aint throwing no belts away.
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Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View PostBut Andrade has ducked Lara three times,
Decubas and Lara never made an offer to Andrade.
Ducking only becomes official when offers were made.
Stick that into your thick head doe.
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Originally posted by Tosaken View PostFacts? Please. How do you vacate a mandatory spot? lmao
Vacated the belt? Wrong again. He was stripped of the belt. It was Lara that didn't want the fight with Andrade.
Getting "called out" doesn't mean crap. If it did, both GGG and Canelo would be huge duckers, because Andrade called them out many times.
Verbal "call-outs" don't mean squat. You must be new to boxing.
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Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View PostGGG was ordered by the IBF to fight Derevyanchenko and ducked, choosing to get stripped so that he can fight Vanes.
GGG was ordered by the WBC to fight Charlo for a guaranteed shot at Canelo, he ducked and went MIA.
Then he returned and was offered a shot at Andrade's title and chose to fight Rolls.
But you out here asking why everyone hating on him? Smh.
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Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View PostOkay, at this point it is clear that you are either Andrade himself, a relative of his, or just a die hard fanboy because that is what it takes to completely ignore reality.
He was mandatory for Charlo, and vacated the mandatory spot. That has nothing to do with offers or what not. That's a clear duck.
He was mandatory for Lara, and vacated the regular belt to move up right after the wba announced that they were gonna order a purse bid.
That's a clear duck.
He had a mandatory obligation to fight Derevyanchenko, and was called out numerous times by Derevyanchenko, and went MIA, came back with the excuse that he went to visit his grandparents.
Those are facts, not opinions. He ducked, plain and simple.
Vacated the belt? Wrong again. He was stripped of the belt. It was Lara that didn't want the fight with Andrade.
Getting "called out" doesn't mean crap. If it did, both GGG and Canelo would be huge duckers, because Andrade called them out many times.
Verbal "call-outs" don't mean squat. You must be new to boxing.
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Originally posted by Tosaken View PostWrong. As far as I know, no real offers were made from either side. Makes it hard to duck if there is nothing to duck from. Charlo's team offer was short notice and without Andrade's knowledge. He accepted the fight the following month and Charlo ducked Andrade to fight Vanes.
Andrade called out Lara several times, and Lara said he already beat him in the amateurs. (10 years ago)
Andrade has been a victim of poor management.
He was mandatory for Charlo, and vacated the mandatory spot. That has nothing to do with offers or what not. That's a clear duck.
He was mandatory for Lara, and vacated the regular belt to move up right after the wba announced that they were gonna order a purse bid.
That's a clear duck.
He had a mandatory obligation to fight Derevyanchenko, and was called out numerous times by Derevyanchenko, and went MIA, came back with the excuse that he went to visit his grandparents.
Those are facts, not opinions. He ducked, plain and simple.
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Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View PostBro so you gonna ignore all that clear ducking he did because he didn't duck 1 guy?
I don't blame him for Saunders, Saunders is the one who ducked because even though he tested positive, the fight could have still happened because he had mitigating circumstances for the positive test, the wbo said they were gonna have an investigation and then deliberate on the situation but Saunders just pulled out and moved up.
But Andrade has ducked Lara three times, and Charlo154 two times, and Derevyanchenko one time, that's too many ducks man no matter how you look at it.
I get that you like the guy, I like him too, because he has made skills and mad talent. Like I said, he was going to be my favorite fighter, but I ain't gonna close my eyes just because I like a guy. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.
The sad reality is that if Andrade had taken those fights and won, as he likely would have, we would probably be talking about him in the same breathe as Pernell Whitaker, Mayweather, and Roy Jones, I think he has that much talent. I see those guys when I look at him.
And he would be getting those Canelo and GGG fights now because he wouldn't be high risk low reward anymore, he would be high risk high reward.
Saunders too would have endured the scrutiny and fought him because he would be thee guy to fight.
Andrade is a victim of his own decisions, a victim of his cowardice and ******ity.
Andrade called out Lara several times, and Lara said he already beat him in the amateurs. (10 years ago)
Andrade has been a victim of poor management.Last edited by Tosaken; 08-31-2019, 09:16 AM.
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This is a by-product of both Canelo's do whatever he wants, to hell with tradition attitude along with the near-impossible task of getting a marquee PBC fighter to fight outside of his safe little circus act.
Andrade moved up when 160 was the hottest division. Now look at it. Andrade needs to fight someone of note, and it needs to be soon.
If I were him, I'd stay at 160, because eventually more belts and comparatively easier fights will become available after Canelo and GGG sort their ****e out.
Do feel for the guy though. The WBO MW title seems to be a liability.
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