If Loma really is P4P #1 in the world.......

[LacedUp]

Also, Bud is the p4p.

Loma can either go undisputed or step up in weight. By olden standards he's nothing but a claimant if he doesn't. Bud's a true champion. Usyk is too but he's a HW now. Nope, he doesn't need to actually fight at HW to be a HW. The olden standard is willingness alone. He's pledged he's willing to fight at HW, he's a HW.

Loma's not a true champion?

Next you'll tell me he's not world class.

[daggum]

Also, Bud is the p4p.

Loma can either go undisputed or step up in weight. By olden standards he's nothing but a claimant if he doesn't. Bud's a true champion. Usyk is too but he's a HW now. Nope, he doesn't need to actually fight at HW to be a HW. The olden standard is willingness alone. He's pledged he's willing to fight at HW, he's a HW.

anyone who beats jeff horn is a true champ

[Marchegiano]

Loma's not a true champion?

Next you'll tell me he's not world class.

anyone who beats jeff horn is a true champ

What do you want me to do, lie to you about what traditional standards are because you like him?

Have you ever seen me praise Bud before or degrade Loma? Nope? Quit cryin' then. Traditions are traditions children. You don't have to agree or like them.

[LacedUp]

What do you want me to do, lie to you about what traditional standards are because you like him?

Have you ever seen me praise Bud before or degrade Loma? Nope? Quit cryin' then. Traditions are traditions children. You don't have to agree or like them.

stfu you lunatic.

[Marchegiano]

stfu you lunatic.

All I get out of this is you don't know what to say but you're too much of an emotional little dog's pizzle to let it go.

I didn't reply to you out of nowhere, you did me.

[LacedUp]

All I get out of this is you don't know what to say but you're too much of an emotional little dog's pizzle to let it go.

I didn't reply to you out of nowhere, you did me.

Yeah when I read something like 'this is the traditional way' I must vomit, and then let you know.

FYI there's nothing 'traditional' about being a 4-belt champ, it's a distinctly new thing. You'd know that if you knew anything about boxing.

[boliodogs]

Pound for pound best is how good a boxer is for his weight class or his pounds. Therefore the lighter he is the better Loma is pound for pound. If he moves up to 140 he is not as dominant as he is at 135 so he is less good PFP. Some 140 pound boxer like Prograis might beat him. At 135 it looks like nobody can beat him. He said his best fighting weight is 130 so he should go back down to 130 where he is even more dominant and better pfp.

[Marchegiano]

Yeah when I read something like 'this is the traditional way' I must vomit, and then let you know.

FYI there's nothing 'traditional' about being a 4-belt champ, it's a distinctly new thing. You'd know that if you knew anything about boxing.

I didn't say anything about bodies or number of belts did I?

Only reason you're projecting that is because you are ignorant.

I spoke about claimants.

[El_Mero]

P4P #1 doesn't mean you have to go beyond your limits. Not every fighter can be at their best at 6 or 8 weight classes. Loma has proven to be the best at three of them, and will likely move down to 130 after Commey. Mikey has no desire to fight him at 135, and Lopez has gone into hiding ever since he was told he needs to get through Commey to get to Loma. Tank wants to hide out at 130, so Loma will have to move down to get money fights against Berchelt, Valdez, Tank etc.

Thank you for pointing out what the ignorant TS fails to understand.

[LacedUp]

I didn't say anything about bodies or number of belts did I?

Only reason you're projecting that is because you are ignorant.

I spoke about claimants.

You said according to 'traditions' Crawford was a true champion, and that Loma is nothing but a claimant, until he steps up in weight or becomes undisputed.

Do I need to remind you that Lomachenko holds the ring magazine belt at lightweight? or that he held the same belt Crawford did as a lightweight and laid claim to championship status?

You talk like a big swinging ****, but your lack of knowledge is apparent to anyone who knows boxing.

Muhammad Ali 'only' held the WBC title in 1967, and unified with Ernie Terrell to have both belts? According to your 'traditional' 'olden' standards, Muhammad Ali was not the true champ before defeating Ernie Terrell?

As I said, STFU you're speaking with a boxing historian. Quit calling people children, it's easy to see that you are one.