Floyd could never handle the middleweights

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  • Spoon23
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    #31
    Originally posted by ikigai
    If you want to be the greatest, you always have more to prove.

    Ali went out trying to prove all he could and he paid the price, but he will also live forever in boxing legend.

    History will remember Floyd as one of the most promising technical and dominant fighters ever who never pushed himself, especially when he retired in 2009 instead of writing his name in boxing history.

    Floyd will always be a what if.

    How the hell do you call yourself the greatest.. when in your prime... you were in the best division in the entire world... with the likes of Paul Williams, Shane Mosley, Margarito, Cotto...

    and then you "retired" in your prime. Floyd didn't retire, he ****ing ducked them because he knew wouldn't keep his O if he didn't run.
    Well said. Floyd is a what IF, that should but wouldn't.. greatness is for the bold. Floyd ain't cut in the same cloth as the true Legends of the game who pushed themselves to be great. Floyd didn't take the risks that mattered. That's one of the category to being immortal.
    Last edited by Spoon23; 08-28-2019, 08:36 AM.

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    • Marchegiano
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      #32


      130-154 >>>> 112-147


      Pac fought in weaker divisions and still only ever managed a 15 fight win streak.

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      • TonyGe
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        #33
        Not a fan of Mayweather's style but there is a limit to how far up in weight a fighter can go. It's surprising to see him get up to 154 never mind 160.

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        • Larry the boss
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          #34
          Originally posted by ikigai
          How does that not make sense? Ali went out chasing greatness and 100 years from now when we're all dead, People will still be talking about Ali and studying his life and his fights. There will still be people saying he's the greatest.

          100 years from now Floyd will just be a footnote. If people even remember him at all will just say something like.. " oh he was good but he never really fought the best in their prime."
          Ali chased greatness how??? by fighting to long and getting brain damage?? you think if he had over $100 million he would have kept fighting?? do you think Ali would have rather been healthy and rich or brain dead and worshiped???

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            #35
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
            Does not matter, Dela La Hoya hit harder, also had faster hand-speed/foot-speed than Canelo at 160 pounds.

            'De La Hoya was fighting a great fight up against Bernard Hopkins for the majority of that fight until stoppage'.
            You ought to stop smoking the Crack. Really. De la Hoya is a former titlist @ 130lbs. In no way, shape or form did he ever punch harder than a prime 160lb Alvarez.

            Please stop with this foolishness...
            Last edited by Nay_Sayer; 08-28-2019, 08:53 AM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by ikigai
              How does that not make sense? Ali went out chasing greatness and 100 years from now when we're all dead, People will still be talking about Ali and studying his life and his fights. There will still be people saying he's the greatest.

              100 years from now Floyd will just be a footnote. If people even remember him at all will just say something like.. " oh he was good but he never really fought the best in their prime."
              Ali fought way too long and paid the price. Surely his family would rather he be less famous and still with them. Floyd is right. There is a time to hang it up before you are damaged beyond repair. Whether you like or dislike his style he's doing the right thing for himself. He's done his bit for his fans but they aren't the ones taking those punches in the ring. Manny should do the same thing.

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              • hugh grant
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                #37
                Originally posted by Marchegiano


                130-154 >>>> 112-147


                Pac fought in weaker divisions and still only ever managed a 15 fight win streak.
                Where do you think these things up is it a eureka moment for you, a light bulb occasion? Pac didn't fight in weaker divisions. Its just Pac beat common opponents more dominantly that you feel his divisions were weaker as Pac made them look weak. Floyd made hard work of Maidana and Castillo, and Hatton and Cotto and DLH made you think wow Floyd must be fighting in strong division. Is that how your mind works?
                Pacs got a 66 fight win streak. Hes won 16 fights more than Floyd.

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                • QballLobo
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                  #38
                  No shame in that. That’s what P4P rankings were made for, so that we can judge a guy’s skills head to head regardless of size advantages.
                  Jr. is just a naturally small guy. I saw him at a Warriors game and up close you see how short he really is.
                  His size has always been an issue. It’s why he is rich and 40+ and still has to pay women to spend time with him.

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                  • Marchegiano
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Where do you think these things up is it a eureka moment for you, a light bulb occasion? Pac didn't fight in weaker divisions. Its just Pac beat common opponents more dominantly that you feel his divisions were weaker as Pac made them look weak. Floyd made hard work of Maidana and Castillo, and Hatton and Cotto and DLH made you think wow Floyd must be fighting in strong division. Is that how your mind works?
                    Pacs got a 66 fight win streak. Hes won 16 fights more than Floyd.
                    goddamn son you got any teeth?

                    Pac did fight in weaker division. dumbass. Many greats from 130. Not so many greats from ****in' 112.

                    Common opponents? Oh you mean Money's leftovers? Yeah, he finished Money's leftovers. Good for him. After ****ing around in the easy division he ****ed around beating guys on the slide in more challenging divisions. Real impressive....for a goblin.

                    Floyd has nothing to do with the strength of 130-154 vs 112-147, history does.

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                    • lparm
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano
                      goddamn son you got any teeth?

                      Pac did fight in weaker division. dumbass. Many greats from 130. Not so many greats from ****in' 112.

                      Common opponents? Oh you mean Money's leftovers? Yeah, he finished Money's leftovers. Good for him. After ****ing around in the easy division he ****ed around beating guys on the slide in more challenging divisions. Real impressive....for a goblin.

                      Floyd has nothing to do with the strength of 130-154 vs 112-147, history does.
                      What greats?

                      Gatti and Castillo?

                      Lol both extremely beatable guys with high single/double digit losses and in their “prime”

                      What world class fighter loses to Mickey Ward for Christ’s sake

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