Why not Andrade-Charlo?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Yes, these 2 should fight each other. They obviously go nowhere waiting on "big money fights". Canelo and GGG don`t care about them.

[Lance98]

Andrade/Jermall Charlo would be a terrible match up for both of them. Andrade would school charlo so hard that all of the top MWs will continue to avoid andrade, so andrade will never get the fights that he wants, and charlo would suffer a devastating loss reducing his stock even further. It's a bad scenario for both of them. Jermall never fancied that fight because he knows deep inside that andrade is very skilled, and would make him look VERY bad.

[Eff Pandas]

Hey hey never fought because Andrade is a bonehead. They almost fought twice but Andrade did something dumb and it fell through.

This.

Andrade is a borderline r3tard. Fight shoulda happened on HBO yeaaaaaars ago.

But its unlikely to happen now cuz neither is THAT big, neither gots THAT much pull or juice & few give THAT many f#cks about them fighting so them being across the street from each other makes this an impossible fight to make any time soon let alone next.

[Boxing_1013]

The policy at Middleweight is go duck the best black fighters. It is and has always been.

And please don't tell me about Jacobs. Jacobs only got the fights because he is chinny. He got ko before and got knocked down by bums. That's why GGG was sulivating at the chance to fight him.

Canelo fought him for same reason plus he already lost to GGG so he had two losses already.

The truly dangerous black guys are being ducked and asked to take each other off the table. GGG and Canelo wana fight the weak black guys and then have their fans call them the "African slayers" or black executioner's whilst ducking the ones they know can beat em.

People keep making the excuse that: "well Charlo should have joined DAZN if he wanted those fights"

Nonsense! Andrade is at DAZN and they still ducking him. Billy Joe Saunders rather moved up and gave up his belt than to fight him.

I think if you kept it a little more real you would realize that again neither Charlo fought Andrade Canelo Lara at 154....Andrade never fought either Charlo Canelo or Lara...imo Lara is the only one who would have fought anyone.

Everyone else is worried about taking a loss and wants to try and be Mayweather...if you think Andrade or Charlo really want to fight GGG right now...I mean I just don't know what to say...they can make similar money for significantly easier fights.

If GGG for one got more credit for the good stuff he has done I would be for him fighting all these supposed boogeymen...but truth is he can beat them...as he did with Jacobs and twice with Nelo...and people still hate.

So yeah I don't think a lot of people really keep it real there...and while GGG in his last 6 fights has Canelo twice Jacobs and now Dervy...pretty good run...you basically admit in your post that you just want to try and use Andrade and Charlo as banana peels to try and slip up someone like G who you don't like.

Which is fine...but it is a really fan-nish take to think like that...and again if G or Nelo beat either one now then a lot of people demanding that fight now...would say the one that got beat ****** and they should fight the other one...if it was a true legacy fight I agree that they should do it.

Funny btw how you are basically saying that now you have the great black hopes... when previously it used to be the great white hopes...I guess stuff really does come full circle sometimes lol.

Anyway I hear what you are saying to some degree...I just think neither Andrade or Charlo has really done enough to make that fight worth it in the sense that if they get beat.. the winner will still get credit...fighting someone else good...like each other. ..would help force the hand of a bigger fight for them.

[Boxing_1013]

Andrade/Jermall Charlo would be a terrible match up for both of them. Andrade would school charlo so hard that all of the top MWs will continue to avoid andrade, so andrade will never get the fights that he wants, and charlo would suffer a devastating loss reducing his stock even further. It's a bad scenario for both of them. Jermall never fancied that fight because he knows deep inside that andrade is very skilled, and would make him look VERY bad.

I was impressed with how easily Andrade beat Sulecki...but I also look at the Vanes and Culcay fights where he had trouble...and think that someone stronger and more athletic than Sulecki may give Andrade trouble.

I think he presents a tricky style...but I am not quite sold on his chin yet and also how he would hold up against more pressure.

I think he beats Charlo but I think it would actually be an exciting fight...with Charlo getting outboxed but always having a pitcher's chance and probably being fairly aggressive.

[Rip Chudd]

The only way you'll get a Charlo fight if you're any type of threat is to become his mandatory. He'll just keep fighting pies until GGG or Canelo hook him up with a fight

[Boxing_1013]

The policy at Middleweight is go duck the best black fighters. It is and has always been.

When has that ever happened in the past btw...most great MWs were probably black lol...so unless they were ducking each other I'm lost on that one...only recently has there been a high percentage of great white fighters really across many divisions...with all of the Eastern euros starting to emerge.

It's emotional takes like that one that just make me not be able to take some stuff seriously man...just seems so over the top and tribal...and seems like you view everything in boxing through that prism...which is fine...a lot of us fans do.

But just seems like that skews your judgment on keeping it real a bit...to say that has always been the MO at MW..I mean what...ludicrous man

[Boxing_1013]

He ducked Lara three times and Jermell Charlo twice, but I don't recall him ducking Jermall.

So out of those 4 guys...you should have had 5 fights...we got 0.

Are you saying you don't want any good black fighters to mix it up...and instead just want them to fight non black fighters? Sincere question.

Just trying to see why you can say Andrade was ducking all these guys at 154..but now at 160 he suddenly wants to fight everyone and everyone is scared of fighting him.

When your guys duck it's fine... when you perceive someone else has ducked it is an injustice

[Gentblue]

I never really followed all of that so I don't know what to believe

The first time is kinda up for debate but the second is not, Andrade was Mells mando and he walked.

It was the other twin, not this one.

It was Jermell. Jermall was champ already.

[JakeTheBoxer]

I was impressed with how easily Andrade beat Sulecki...but I also look at the Vanes and Culcay fights where he had trouble...and think that someone stronger and more athletic than Sulecki may give Andrade trouble.

Yes. All fights between top 160 guys will be very competitive. Charlo/Derevyanchenko/jacobs/GGG/Canelo are all difficult fights for each other.