Comments Thread For: Hearn: Ruiz Can't Moan About Neutral Venue For Joshua Rematch

[LetOutTheCage]

all you had to do was watch the fight and you'd see the crowd support. Thought you weren't going to pay me any mind? Lol, simpleton puppet. Bradley's victory over pac was an arum scam, not an American home field advantage. Dumb ass

LMAO this guy really doesnt have a clue what he's talking about, I would say his ******ity was surprising but he is another dumb American and a biased one at that. Go watch some baseball or something, boxing is clearly too complicated for you

[Ray*]

Exactly just the way happen. Fight has been announced, that's done and dusted. Looking forward to Dec 7, all eyez will be in SA for the right reasons.
I think maybe there is a reason SA is putting up much money for this, maybe for the world to see the bright side of SA and for the main time forget about all the atrocities that have happened.

Yeah of course that’s why they are putting up the money, they obviously want to paint their country as been the place to be, especially with all the issues that is been reported in the western media.

HW Boxing for me has a history of going places like this, so I have zero issues about it at all. People would go there, they would be welcomed, they would enjoy the show, report it through their media outlet and we would have something to talk about in December.

[Laligalaliga]

He's a moron with little knowledge pay him no mind

Of course.......I know his kind on this site.

[Laligalaliga]

Yeah of course that’s why they are putting up the money, they obviously want to paint their country as been the place to be, especially with all the issues that is been reported in the western media.

HW Boxing for me has a history of going places like this, so I have zero issues about it at all. People would go there, they would be welcomed, they would enjoy the show, report it through their media outlet and we would have something to talk about in December.

That's exactly the way it will happen come December.

[Jab jab boom]

LMAO this guy really doesnt have a clue what he's talking about, I would say his ******ity was surprising but he is another dumb American and a biased one at that. Go watch some baseball or something, boxing is clearly too complicated for you

have you ever been to a fight in America? Or specifically in NYC? If not you should stfu because you're the one who clearly doesn't have a clue. Fighters from NY don't even have the crowd support often times fighting in NYC. Particularly against UK fighters. Mainly because UK fans are so delusional and supportive of mediocre talent, they take the flight to watch their heroes lose while drunk chanting. Then they sip tea and cry after realizing that their fighter got splattered across the floor. See Floyd vs Hatton and Joshua vs ruiz as examples.

[LetOutTheCage]

have you ever been to a fight in America? Or specifically in NYC? If not you should stfu because you're the one who clearly doesn't have a clue. Fighters from NY don't even have the crowd support often times fighting in NYC. Particularly against UK fighters. Mainly because UK fans are so delusional and supportive of mediocre talent, they take the flight to watch their heroes lose while drunk chanting. Then they sip tea and cry after realizing that their fighter got splattered across the floor. See Floyd vs Hatton and Joshua vs ruiz as examples.

So your argument is that its neutral because US fan support is poor?

There's no home advantage for US fighter he says This guy is a clown who advocates US fighters not traveling, weak minded fan who has no trust in his local fighters

[juggernaut666]

My only point remains simple... and its not picking a right or a wrong guy. The original clause as stated did not hold together.... we can say not much changed, thats really an opinion...and frankly i don't have an opinion about whether it was a major or minor change...

The change in value demanded a reworking. Given this state of affairs, it simply means that because it would be silly of hearn to fight it, and because ruiz threatened not to perform... the contract became weak and had to be tweaked....yes for more money i agee.

That is my only point... im not even capping on hearns here... weak, voidable contracts happen when there is a change in value and financial terms change.

So...lets say venue was not changed and only financial terms were tweaked lol i can live with that.

Ruiz is getting extra money to do more for the promotion is Saudi Arabia not bc he demanding it. Ruiz said he wants more then 9 million that means that's what was determined in the original contract otherwise negotiations would have included Ruiz himself which wasn't the case . Hear gave his team two choices ,they picked Saudi Arabia ,they have no control where the fight was going to be held its either this or that.


Ruiz grand standed then Hearn but he has a contract binding ,he does not make any decisions he can ask for more money which he got and that's bv Hearn is making him to promotional work what was not asked before. Thers no possiblr way this contract was voidable without penalties ,its why Hearn put that court order out for all to see and you saw what happened....Ruiz quickly found his pen .


Wheather he lands a fake injury is another topic and he will be replaced by Pulev wheather ppl want to believe that or not bc Pulev will be given notice to be ready to fight on Dec.7th and will be payed to be on stand by ,this is what team Joshua does and has done more then once.

[Jab jab boom]

So your argument is that its neutral because US fan support is poor?

There's no home advantage for US fighter he says This guy is a clown who advocates US fighters not traveling, weak minded fan who has no trust in his local fighters

now you're just babbling and not making Sense. you're probably a fat drunk uk Coke head like Hatton. Stick to the topic, what disadvantages did Joshua encounter coming to the US to face ruiz? He had more crowd support, made more money, his promotor was in charge of everything. His flight to NYC was about 2 hrs longer. What else?? I get it, UK boxing history pales in comparison to other countries, so you cling to guys that you want to be great, only to be let down by their fragility physically and mentally. Must suck.

[billeau2]

Ruiz is getting extra money to do more for the promotion is Saudi Arabia not bc he demanding it. Ruiz said he wants more then 9 million that means that's what was determined in the original contract otherwise negotiations would have included Ruiz himself which wasn't the case . Hear gave his team two choices ,they picked Saudi Arabia ,they have no control where the fight was going to be held its either this or that.


Ruiz grand standed then Hearn but he has a contract binding ,he does not make any decisions he can ask for more money which he got and that's bv Hearn is making him to promotional work what was not asked before. Thers no possiblr way this contract was voidable without penalties ,its why Hearn put that court order out for all to see and you saw what happened....Ruiz quickly found his pen .


Wheather he lands a fake injury is another topic and he will be replaced by Pulev wheather ppl want to believe that or not bc Pulev will be given notice to be ready to fight on Dec.7th and will be payed to be on stand by ,this is what team Joshua does and has done more then once.

I don't know why Ruiz is getting more money. I also don't view contracts through a "win/lose" prism. Actually when there is a major contract dispute...something that happened with Ward, Something that virtually destroyed the career of Tim Witherspoon, the things that King would do...It is bad for boxing.

If you feel as though Ruiz got nothing due to his efforts, that there were other reasons for consideration changing, promotional, etc...I don't know enough about the contract to determine that J, I don't know how you, or anyone would, but so be it. The reasons for things don't actually concern me so much as the understanding that many people have which I will put in stone here so there are no misunderstandings:

Contracts sometimes require a legal remedy. But, Often, EVEN if the contract holder would succeed, it is better to make a new agreement for all parties. Now, I won't even call this a new contract, I won't even say that avoiding remediation is due to a weak initial contract that does not consider the new situation, because the work "weak" sounds judgemental, ok? Call it anything you want...

At the end of the day? I don't know what state of mind, and what changed during these negotiations. Did Ruiz intend on getting more income? Was he told "take it or leave it?" who knows? Not I. All I am going on is: when a contract is legally enforced it is remedied for damages. When a contract can no longer hold together in its present form to guarantee performance because of any reasons it is voidable, unless it is brought up for remedy and then it is breached.

I think the confusion may be because, while the contract is voidable, if it is reworked and accepted it need not be voided...Again being "voidable" is not the same as "voiding" a contract. It simply means that the force of the contract is/was such that it is not able to force performance out of one of the parties involved. So: when Hearn gave Ruiz promotional responsibilities, whatever he did, guess what? The contract was no longer voidable because this forced performance from Ruiz.

[LetOutTheCage]

now you're just babbling and not making Sense. you're probably a fat drunk uk Coke head like Hatton. Stick to the topic, what disadvantages did Joshua encounter coming to the US to face ruiz? He had more crowd support, made more money, his promotor was in charge of everything. His flight to NYC was about 2 hrs longer. What else?? I get it, UK boxing history pales in comparison to other countries, so you cling to guys that you want to be great, only to be let down by their fragility physically and mentally. Must suck.

Lmao I dont drink and I certainly dont take drugs. That's more ur thing

Ok what disadvantages did Fury have? How about Lewis in the first fight? You seem so eager to ignore the obvious bias.

Facts are the US have some truly awful decisions some of the most controversial decisions have happened in the US. But being a casual with limited knowledge you aren't aware of this.

Keep telling everyone how you dont get home advantage, the rest of us will just keep laughing at you