Comments Thread For: Fury: Luis Ortiz Was in His Prime 45 Years Ago - Can't Beat Wilder

[The D3vil]

People talk **** about Ortiz and say he's old, yet they're always finding reasons not to fight the lefty southpaw with power and the Cuban background, so I take what they say with a grain of salt

[landotter]

So you call Fury a fraud and you call Wilder a real fighter yet Wilder couldnt beat Fury and if we are honest about it Wilder lost that fight and Fury was only half fit.

REALLY? Stop. Please just stop. That fight was the best shape Fury had ever been in. Ever. Wilder obviously had underestimated him, and so did a ton of us fans (myself included). Quit underselling. That was the best version of Tyson Fury you will likely ever see.

[landotter]

Very little doubt this is Ortiz last huge chance. The idea he can't win is silly. The idea of him being the underdog to win is a given. I think Wilder is motivated to make a statement going into the Fury rematch. Ortiz better have his game face ready and his body in ready for some abuse.

[REDEEMER]

Yet Ortiz is ranked as a top 5 heavyweight.

GTFOH Prime or not this will be a great fight and no one is trying to see him outside of Wilder.

Ortiz declined 7 million from team AJ. Always these assinighn claims but Ortiz resume speaks for itself one win against a known decent fighter in 4 years . People can say whatever about Wallin but he has no health issues and is about 20 years younger then Ortiz.

[kushking]

Ortiz declined 7 million from team AJ. Always these assinighn claims but Ortiz resume speaks for itself one win against a known decent fighter in 4 years . People can say whatever about Wallin but he has no health issues and is about 20 years younger then Ortiz.

Again with the bs about Ortiz being old,hes the age he says he is,only Wilder hating AJ fanatics make up this bs & spread it to the pt Fury even regurgitates it to use it as an excuse for fighting complete bums,& yes Wallin is literal garbage,only Fury apologist would say otherwise. Ftr I was among the only ones that picked Fury to school Wilder

[REDEEMER]

Again with the bs about Ortiz being old,hes the age he says he is,only Wilder hating AJ fanatics make up this bs & spread it to the pt Fury even regurgitates it to use it as an excuse for fighting complete bums,& yes Wallin is literal garbage,only Fury apologist would say otherwise. Ftr I was among the only ones that picked Fury to school Wilder

My guess is your a kid , im not and know old when I see it . You can claim Ortiz isn't 50 but there's to many guys in the industry even his own trainer when interviewed slipped out he's the toughest 50 year old then back tracked saying if he was 50 . Did he just blurt that out for no reason ?

[giant_king]

Lol boxers are still talking about Ortiz age but they still scared to fight him hahahaha

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

Don't listen to what fighters say. Don't listen to what fans say. Don't listen to what networks say. Don't listen to what the media says. Don't listen to what promoters say.

Go to boxrec and see who has proved what. Not completely fool proof, but 99% of the time it will give you a rough idea of where guys stand.

Ortiz is #8 in the world. Otto Wallin is #46. That's all you need to know about Wilder & Fury's upcoming opponents.

[Fire4231]

Ortiz declined 7 million from team AJ. Always these assinighn claims but Ortiz resume speaks for itself one win against a known decent fighter in 4 years . People can say whatever about Wallin but he has no health issues and is about 20 years younger then Ortiz.

Eff your 7 million, it was a low ball with three weeks notice and legacy on the line. When he tried to come back and accept it Hearn ran. Luis should of took it. He would be Andy Ruiz right now. No knock against Andy he deserves it. And whooped AJ like he stole his first born.

Both Joshua and Whyte ducked Ortiz on a legit training camp. And everyone Luis has fought was ranked WAYYYY higher than Otto Whoopin and tomato can number one Tom (Who ranked this effing bum) Schwarz!!!!

Either way what does that have to do with Ortiz’s actual ranking and record? He is fighting live ranked bodies not like recent Fury activity. Was his close match against Wilder a fluke also? Fight of the year bumski!!! Is all a boxing a sham because Hearn the biggest liar on earth says so and you were shallow enough to want to believe it?

Some UK fans are a sigh and a complete let down. Used to have respect for y’all. You just seemed like good fans of the sport once upon a time. But this new fanatical breed will sell their soul for a Hearn not even realistic soundbite. Y’all just go with Hearn’s BS and that is why that rain cloud is always hanging over Hearn, Joshua, Whyte and DAZN. You can’t distort reality!!!

It is also why Fury slunk over to Top Rank and is fighting people ranked #62. Auto Whoopin is no way on the same level as Ortiz. No Way!!! Stop playing with smart peoples intelligence.

You can say it a thousand times but we still know the truth. Good day ye old spin artist fake decepticon swallowing Hearn’s de****able twisted seed.

[REDEEMER]

Eff your 7 million, it was a low ball with three weeks notice and legacy on the line. When he tried to come back and accept it Hearn ran. Luis should of took it. He would be Andy Ruiz right now. No knock against Andy he deserves it. And whooped AJ like he stole his first born.

Both Joshua and Whyte ducked Ortiz on a legit training camp. And everyone Luis has fought was ranked WAYYYY higher than Otto Whoopin and tomato can number one Tom (Who ranked this effing bum) Schwarz!!!!

Either way what does that have to do with Ortiz’s actual ranking and record? He is fighting live ranked bodies not like recent Fury activity. Was his close match against Wilder a fluke also? Fight of the year bumski!!! Is all a boxing a sham because Hearn the biggest liar on earth says so and you were shallow enough to want to believe it?

Some UK fans are a sigh and a complete let down. Used to have respect for y’all. You just seemed like good fans of the sport once upon a time. But this new fanatical breed will sell their soul for a Hearn not even realistic soundbite. Y’all just go with Hearn’s BS and that is why that rain cloud is always hanging over Hearn, Joshua, Whyte and DAZN. You can’t distort reality!!!

It is also why Fury slunk over to Top Rank and is fighting people ranked #62. Auto Whoopin is no way on the same level as Ortiz. No Way!!! Stop playing with smart peoples intelligence.

You can say it a thousand times but we still know the truth. Good day ye old spin artist fake decepticon swallowing Hearn’s de****able twisted seed.

That's a lie. Ortiz was giving the same time frame that he accepted Wilder fight which was 7 weeks. He priced himself out as well asking for 10 million, he took the Wilder fight for 500 K though. Isn't that funny ?