Floyd - Chino 1 was a draw at the very least
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I knew I'd get this type of reply and whilst I value your input, it's irrelevant to the subject. We are discussing the first fight on it's own merit, the scoring and the quality of the fight.They had a rematch...there's no point in crying now. Maidana got his chance to prove his dominance and failed. Nothing to whine about. Everyone on here admits is was close....and then Chino lost in a not so close rematch...which kind of proves the other side was dominant.
I agreed with JMM the whole time, he whoop Pac and got robbed repeatedly, he said he was getting robbed and has to KO him, then he KO'd Pac. That's how you prove you are and were always better. You say nope, whooped his ass and will prove it, then you go whoop his ass, not get your ass whooped.
Yes Floyd won the second fight, no argument. Your point about Marquez also doesn't make sense as it took him 4 tries to knock him out and for the record, I thought JMM won fight 2 and 3, but not everyone did.Comment
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Mehm Floyd is a guy who only fought when he had all advantages to him covered.What the Floyd haters don’t understand is that Floyd allowed Chino his style because he would still control the GLOVES points wise. It’s an example what Lara couldn’t do against Canelo. Canelo had to match power shots and body work which inevitably is what the judges liked. Holding Floyd and hitting him to the body ala DLH wasn’t going to give Oscar the fight because circumstance tells you that Oscar should’ve outboxed Floyd if it’s pure vs pure. Plus Floyd was just quicker and crispier as he was against Canelo. When Floyd is in dangerous fights he maintains range and pocket fighting for point to point challenges, similar to the way Crawford expects to counter.
With Chino, the only way he could milk two fights with an easy brawler (for Floyd) was to welcome his style.
Maidana was able to advance on Floyd the way Kirkland did to Canelo on the ropes for a couple of rounds. It looks nice, but not enough. Difference is Canelo wanted to hurt Kirkland. Floyd was coasting a show.
Many people don’t even realize that Floyd and Haymon have subliminal messages particularly in their entrances. Bieber, rappers, to a Circus Ringling Bros. (maidana). This is obvious trolling for a “show.” Masters at metaphors.Comment
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I thought Floyd won 7 to 5 Maidana won first 5 but Floyd took over after but some rounds were still close.
Chino def surprised me his rough close smother style followed by his jab gave Floyd problems and Floyd trying to fight on the inside didn't help.
But Floyd's fast hands and counters are what won him the fight after the 5th he upped his defence and started timing him better and getting his combos off first.Comment
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Okay but let me try one rephrase before I drop it.I knew I'd get this type of reply and whilst I value your input, it's irrelevant to the subject. We are discussing the first fight on it's own merit, the scoring and the quality of the fight.
Yes Floyd won the second fight, no argument. Your point about Marquez also doesn't make sense as it took him 4 tries to knock him out and for the record, I thought JMM won fight 2 and 3, but not everyone did.
My point was hindsight and bias. As a Floyd fan it is easy for me to just say " I seen Floyd whoop that ass and here's why" BUT really all I'm doing is talking about my own biases. That fight can go which ever depending on what you're looking for. I may be a Floyd fan but if Rocco and Wilder in my avy and sig don't tell you I'm a power puncher fan more than anything and I ain't so high on Floyd I wouldn't like to see him get walloped, that's a hell of a skilled puncher who wallops Money.
So, yeah, live, I leaned Money. Rewatch I was feeling like I was more wanting to see a Money win then seen a money win. I was understanding the Chino fans point of view and thinking well **** maybe. Then the rematch happened and Floyd made his case clearly.
The first fight can be scored for one or the other based of things like posture. The second fight can't, to me the second affirms the first. I seen Floyd whoops that ass, Chino fans made a good argument to me about how Chino whooped that ass, then I definitely seen Floyd whoop that ass and knew them chino fans was wrong the whole time.
It wasn't until the rematch that I was sure I believe Floyd won the first one. I kept that door open until Floyd made his case.Comment
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