Floyd - Chino 1 was a draw at the very least

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  • llll
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    #11
    I scored it a draw. 6-6

    The second fight was 8-4 Floyd.

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    • llll
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      #12
      Originally posted by Stokely
      Nah. Floyd easily won 8-4 IMO. You don’t win rounds with rabbit punches and other dirty tactics. Maidana is a shît boxer and Mayweather brutally exposed him in both fights.

      The only people who think Maidana deserved a draw or a victory are clueless, bias, Hispanic casuals.
      lol maidana was controlling Floyd on the inside and landing the harder shots. Floyd couldn't tie him up.

      If you say mayweather brutally exposed Maidana in the first fight you're a clueless, biased casual. Are you hispanic by any chance lol?

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      • Eff Pandas
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        #13
        This is how bad ass Floyd is. Mfers still bringing up his old fights in the non-history section like it happened last week or some sh^t.

        Disagree doe. I think this was a 9-3, 8-4 Floyd decision. I didn't need to see a rematch of this one and was disappointed a rematch happened cuz I'd rather have seen other fights, but respect to Floyd listening to his biggest haters who said he shoulda lost this one and rematching Marcos.

        That's one thing even the haters should dig about Floyd is when a certain critical mass of fans thought he lost a fight the two times it happened Floyd gave that guy an immediate rematch which isn't a common thing A sides do. They usually just try to forget about that fight glad they got the W and keep it moving forward.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #14
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          This is how bad ass Floyd is. Mfers still bringing up his old fights in the non-history section like it happened last week or some sh^t.

          Disagree doe. I think this was a 9-3, 8-4 Floyd decision. I didn't need to see a rematch of this one and was disappointed a rematch happened cuz I'd rather have seen other fights, but respect to Floyd listening to his biggest haters who said he shoulda lost this one and rematching Marcos.

          That's one thing even the haters should dig about Floyd is when a certain critical mass of fans thought he lost a fight the two times it happened Floyd gave that guy an immediate rematch which isn't a common thing A sides do. They usually just try to forget about that fight glad they got the W and keep it moving forward.
          What the Floyd haters don’t understand is that Floyd allowed Chino his style because he would still control the rounds points wise. It’s an example what Lara couldn’t do against Canelo. Canelo had to match power shots and body work which inevitably is what the judges liked. Holding Floyd and hitting him to the body ala DLH wasn’t going to give Oscar the fight because circumstance tells you that Oscar should’ve outboxed Floyd if it’s pure vs pure. Plus Floyd was just quicker and crispier as he was against Canelo. When Floyd is in dangerous fights he maintains range and pocket fighting for point to point challenges, similar to the way Crawford expects to counter.

          With Chino, the only way he could milk two fights with an easy brawler (for Floyd) was to welcome his style.

          Maidana was able to advance on Floyd the way Kirkland did to Canelo on the ropes for a couple of rounds. It looks nice, but not enough. Difference is Canelo wanted to hurt Kirkland. Floyd was coasting a show.

          Many people don’t even realize that Floyd and Haymon have subliminal messages particularly in their entrances. Bieber, rappers, to a Circus Ringling Bros. (maidana). This is obvious trolling for a “show.” Masters at metaphors.

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          • SplitSecond
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            Not in the least. It was a draw plain and simple. If you score the fight right, it's just a draw that you get, not a hard fight to score.

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            • Murcielago
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              #16
              I don't like Floyd and I believe Castillo beat him but I had the first fight vs Maidana 7-5 for Floyd.

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              • sunny31
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                #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                This is how bad ass Floyd is. Mfers still bringing up his old fights in the non-history section like it happened last week or some sh^t.

                Disagree doe. I think this was a 9-3, 8-4 Floyd decision. I didn't need to see a rematch of this one and was disappointed a rematch happened cuz I'd rather have seen other fights, but respect to Floyd listening to his biggest haters who said he shoulda lost this one and rematching Marcos.

                That's one thing even the haters should dig about Floyd is when a certain critical mass of fans thought he lost a fight the two times it happened Floyd gave that guy an immediate rematch which isn't a common thing A sides do. They usually just try to forget about that fight glad they got the W and keep it moving forward.
                No ****ing Way, I can see 7-5 Floyd, but your scoring is way off! You should watch it again, I'm not someone who scores for aggression either, but Floyd let that fight getaway from him. He seemed to get some composure back in the 4th but then the cut happened and he was panicking for a while after in the ring and in the corner.

                He unlocked something in the middle of the 6th, but it was at worst 7-5 either way, if you're going to lean in a direction, it would be Maidana. Floyd was getting out-jabbed in spots, it wasnt just a mauling, Maidana's attack was varied, he was hitting harder, at times dirty, and relentless.

                I always thought the first Castillo fight was more controversial, a fight which I thought was a draw, but on second view this was equal to that.

                No doubt Floyd is a bad mofo, one of the best to do it...that doesn't make any of the above untrue...its not a undermining exercise...I really feel Floyd had the luck of the gods on the night, and I do think many times in his career, the preconception that he was the "master boxer" in the ring meant judges scored rounds with that perception in mind, this doesn't just apply to him, but it happens in general. I'll give you an example, seeing as you're a Floyd fan, watch his fight with Cotto, specifically rd3, a boxing round for the most part...a round where the general perception is that Floyd won...I actually think Cotto won it, his jab and body punching. On the flip side, there are rounds in the Jesus Chavez fight that were scored against Floyd because he was "outworked" but I actually thought he won by brawling.

                The fact that he didn't lose very many rounds throughout his career means that it didn't really matter...but Maidana was unlucky this night.

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                • sunny31
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond
                  Not in the least. It was a draw plain and simple. If you score the fight right, it's just a draw that you get, not a hard fight to score.
                  You might be right, but I feel Floyd got the benefit of the doubt in some swing rounds, but of course if people felt he edged 6 rounds then that is enough and I've got no problem with that. Nothing says you have to win a round by a mile, I think this gets missed by a lot of people.

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                  • Chrismart
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                    #19
                    I haven't watched it since the night it happened, but I remember it being a very close fight.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #20
                      They had a rematch...there's no point in crying now. Maidana got his chance to prove his dominance and failed. Nothing to whine about. Everyone on here admits is was close....and then Chino lost in a not so close rematch...which kind of proves the other side was dominant.

                      I agreed with JMM the whole time, he whoop Pac and got robbed repeatedly, he said he was getting robbed and has to KO him, then he KO'd Pac. That's how you prove you are and were always better. You say nope, whooped his ass and will prove it, then you go whoop his ass, not get your ass whooped.

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