Why does it seem this era of boxing can never dominate any real tests/threats?

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  • Larry the boss
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    Why does it seem this era of boxing can never dominate any real tests/threats?

    They all look good against low level comp but none are dominating against the other supposed top boxers?? its always a draw or some ****** scorecard or they just plain lose to a "lower" level boxer..

    Is the skill level dropping, the dedication just not there or do they just want the rewards without putting in the actual work?
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    Not sure what you mean. When top guys fight it tends to be close competitive more often then when its not top guys fighting each other & ideally in a more competitive division that can result in musical titles being played a lil bit to. It happens in every era to some degree I feel like. Hagler had some close fights with his biggest rivals. Ali got beat as champ a couple times ffs. Lotsa sh^t like that happened back in the day & still does.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      Not sure what you mean. When top guys fight it tends to be close competitive more often then when its not top guys fighting each other & ideally in a more competitive division that can result in musical titles being played a lil bit to. It happens in every era to some degree I feel like. Hagler had some close fights with his biggest rivals. Ali got beat as champ a couple times ffs. Lotsa sh^t like that happened back in the day & still does.
      My interpretation of what Prof. Larry is saying is: This era isn't that exciting anymore like when we had match ups like Tito-Vargas, Oscar-Mosley, Floyd-Chavez, etc. In that kinda era. Larry is nostalgic!

      I'm also not that excited about this era except for select fighters.
      Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 08-21-2019, 08:44 PM.

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        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Not sure what you mean. When top guys fight it tends to be close competitive more often then when its not top guys fighting each other & ideally in a more competitive division that can result in musical titles being played a lil bit to. It happens in every era to some degree I feel like. Hagler had some close fights with his biggest rivals. Ali got beat as champ a couple times ffs. Lotsa sh^t like that happened back in the day & still does.
        what i mean is they literally get one good test and fail..literally...they have 0 elite boxers they dominate period... they either lose or it is a close/can go either way fight...I see no greatness

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          You had clear best of the best back in the day, they kicked ass and took names..now guys just want handouts and struggle against other guys who havent beat anyone worth a damn..

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            #6
            Originally posted by Professor Larry
            what i mean is they literally get one good test and fail..literally...they have 0 elite boxers they dominate period... they either lose or it is a close/can go either way fight...I see no greatness
            Name some specific examples from back in the day & today. I feel what you are saying has always been how things are. Few cats are THAT dominate in any area.

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              I read an article by a famous manager who said that by the time a boxer gets to the top, he is already on the decline, which means that promoters/managers/trainers wait too long or it takes too long to get fights so their prime is spent beating guys that they were way too good for so you don't often see their best versus someone else talented's best.

              I think of the super fights, and rarely it's in both guys primes.

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                Loma made easy work of Rigo and Axe Man

                Guys who can pull a Floyd and beat other great fighters by winning 9 or 10 rounds are a rare breed.

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                  Originally posted by Professor Larry
                  They all look good against low level comp but none are dominating against the other supposed top boxers?? its always a draw or some ****** scorecard or they just plain lose to a "lower" level boxer..

                  Is the skill level dropping, the dedication just not there or do they just want the rewards without putting in the actual work?
                  Be real Larry legend my dude you know Fury dominated Wilder. Boxed his ears off.

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                    Originally posted by jreckoning
                    I read an article by a famous manager who said that by the time a boxer gets to the top, he is already on the decline, which means that promoters/managers/trainers wait too long or it takes too long to get fights so their prime is spent beating guys that they were way too good for so you don't often see their best versus someone else talented's best.

                    I think of the super fights, and rarely it's in both guys primes.
                    I think u have a point. Two fighters who have been linked together on their way up, seems to take way too long to materialize. I think part of it is that the risk of fighting and losing to the other young star is too damaging. Promoters and managers can earn good money of a guy who builds a record. Often it’s worth more money and less risk to ur career to have the fight past ur prime. Maybe it can turn into a rematch or trilogy, where as if it happens when ur young, the loser will usually get left behind. It’s kinda like how Khan knows the brook fight will be there on his way out. If Kahn lost to him now he’d be the loser in UK. Brook will be able to lord that over him. Khan may well win that fight but, the risk is not worth the reward right now. Khan just got a fight with Crawford, losing to him paid more and would never look as bad as a loss to brook. I don’t know if I’m making any sense, but protecting fighters for a long time seems to pay of to those on control.

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