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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #21
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    Trying to rack my brain when this has happened before...

    Unified champ fights challenger, challenger gets gift draw, challenger, challengers promoter and challengers fans claim they are above giving the champion a rematch.

    Then after he does, many consider that to also be too close to call, with a SD win and the champ is refused to get a rematch without jumping through hoops and getting the belts that the new champ just keeps on dropping to avoid fighting anyone.

    Like...if we changed the fighters names I’m sure people would feel different.
    Fighting Andrade for the WBO to make their fight for all the belts is a reasonable and logical "hoop" if you will. Particularly since it benefits both fighters.

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      #22
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      Trying to rack my brain when this has happened before...

      Unified champ fights challenger, challenger gets gift draw, challenger, challengers promoter and challengers fans claim they are above giving the champion a rematch.

      Then after he does, many consider that to also be too close to call, with a SD win and the champ is refused to get a rematch without jumping through hoops and getting the belts that the new champ just keeps on dropping to avoid fighting anyone.

      Like...if we changed the fighters names I’m sure people would feel different.
      Canelo not only fought him twice but also beat him in his kind of fight the second time around. I don't get why people are obessed with seeing two fighters fight over and over again. Canelo gave GGG two big paydays and Golovkin was completely classless and ungrateful in the build up to the second fight. He wouldn't have ever gotten those 2 paydays or the name recognition amongst the casuals without Alvarez. Canelo was deeply bothered by the drug talk and since clembuteral is pretty easy to injest in Mexico and if he really is a clean fighter he doesn't like all his hard work questioned that way. He is clearly a hard working talent who challenges himself. That is why his skills are better than Golovkins and he clearly also has more balls since he is the one stepping up to Kovalev. GGG has himself to blame for where his career is at. He was in the ring twice with the cash cow and couldn't get the job done. I for one don't want to see that fight anymore. The first fight was close but Canelo won the second fight clearly and the way he did it was enough to prove who the better fighter was. Fresh match ups >>>> stale rematches.

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      • _Rexy_
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        #23
        Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
        Fighting Andrade for the WBO to make their fight for all the belts is a reasonable and logical "hoop" if you will. Particularly since it benefits both fighters.
        But it’s not for all the belts anymore. IBF is vacant, and Charlo has the WBC. Middleweight is a ****show now.

        3 months ago it would have been reasonable. But what now? Is Canelo going to request that G acquire all of the belts that he vacates?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Boxing lives
          Canelo not only fought him twice but also beat him in his kind of fight the second time around. I don't get why people are obessed with seeing two fighters fight over and over again. Canelo gave GGG two big paydays and Golovkin was completely classless and ungrateful in the build up to the second fight. He wouldn't have ever gotten those 2 paydays or the name recognition amongst the casuals without Alvarez. Canelo was deeply bothered by the drug talk and since clembuteral is pretty easy to injest in Mexico and if he really is a clean fighter he doesn't like all his hard work questioned that way. He is clearly a hard working talent who challenges himself. That is why his skills are better than Golovkins and he clearly also has more balls since he is the one stepping up to Kovalev. GGG has himself to blame for where his career is at. He was in the ring twice with the cash cow and couldn't get the job done. I for one don't want to see that fight anymore. The first fight was close but Canelo won the second fight clearly and the way he did it was enough to prove who the better fighter was. Fresh match ups >>>> stale rematches.
          Who gives a **** about paydays? Boxing fans are supposed to care about good fights. I stopped reading your rant when you made Canelo a victim for Golovkin having the audacity to call him out on failing two drug tests.

          Keep following who makes what though, who wins each contract negotiation, etc. I’ll keep hoping the top guys fight each other in the ring and enjoy the fights.

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            #25
            Originally posted by _Rexy_
            I answered you. Look above.

            And Zurdo won’t make 168 forever. He already tested out 175 last fight before coming back down.
            and canelo is probably going to go to lhw too if the good/big fights are there.....and canelo/zurdo could be a big one down the line.....so that angle that arum is in a rush for that doesn't really mean much to me unless bob is worrying about being dead....that fight still has a chance and has plenty of time....golovkin does not get in the way of that

            canelo did make his face red...he fought the exact fight golovkin wished for and golovkin still couldn't win convincingly(or at all in my book).....I don't have to tell you what canelo did to make golovkin scared...you know why? because I never said or implied golovkin was scared....you are the one, along with others, implying canelo is scared

            so I asked...what did golovkin do to make canelo scared...

            listen...if u think golovkin won the first fight its cool...I wouldn't argue....but I don't care what percentage of press or whomever had golovkin winning the 2nd fight...he did not win that fight...in fact he got beat....and the judged reflected that.....golovkin was supposed to roll through canelo according to golovkins fans....canelo was never hurt or rocked.....he fought golovkin well twice in two very different manners.....

            you guys want canelo to be scared...it fits into the narrative everyone tried to run with before....calling him scared and saying hed never fight him...then when he did fight him everyone cried that he ran all night....then he fought Mexican style and beat him....now everyones crying again

            im not even a canelo fan...but give the guy a break

            golovkin ran his gums more than once when he should have stayed in line and gave canelo some respect....he whined about the khan fight and fought brook after....he whined about the drug test and still fought him...then he whined some more when he got his face marked up and lost....his own trainer felt he lost and when his trainer said that he canned him like a whiny baby

            yet you guys think its canelo scared of golovkins in ring ability...LOL

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              #26
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              Who gives a **** about paydays? Boxing fans are supposed to care about good fights. I stopped reading your rant when you made Canelo a victim for Golovkin having the audacity to call him out on failing two drug tests.

              Keep following who makes what though, who wins each contract negotiation, etc. I’ll keep hoping the top guys fight each other in the ring and enjoy the fights.
              Well I actually had a tear in my eye at the thought of poor Canelo bothered by all this nasty drug talk.

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                #27
                Originally posted by _Rexy_
                Who gives a **** about paydays? Boxing fans are supposed to care about good fights. I stopped reading your rant when you made Canelo a victim for Golovkin having the audacity to call him out on failing two drug tests.

                Keep following who makes what though, who wins each contract negotiation, etc. I’ll keep hoping the top guys fight each other in the ring and enjoy the fights.
                boxing fans are supposed to care about fights and not paydays

                until golovkin clearly ducks ward...and still doesn't get canelo for like another year and a half "how was he supposed to fight ward when he had that canelo payday in front of him...only an idiot would do that"

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                • ArturoBalboa
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by GlassJoey
                  Criticising a drug cheat to their face is unconscionable but taking them to hurt your opponent is fine
                  The audacity of Golovkin being angry at finding out his opponent failed two drug tests. It’s not as if boxers put their health, even life on the line when they enter the ring.

                  The audacity of Arum to weigh in on this when the only experience he’s had with ped’s are more than likely blue diamond shaped ones.

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                  • Curt Henning
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ArturoBalboa
                    Well I actually had a tear in my eye at the thought of poor Canelo bothered by all this nasty drug talk.
                    its not just the drug talk

                    its the way he talked about him fighting khan then fought brook

                    its some of the drug talk

                    its him whining about canelo not fighting Mexican style

                    its canelo fighting Mexican style and denting his whig up and then golovkin storming out of the ring like a baby

                    its golovkins own trainer giving canelo props for the performance and then golovkin canning him like a brat

                    its golovkin fighting guys like vanes and rolls while waiting for canelo when he should be fighting stiffer tests...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      and canelo is probably going to go to lhw too if the good/big fights are there.....and canelo/zurdo could be a big one down the line.....so that angle that arum is in a rush for that doesn't really mean much to me unless bob is worrying about being dead....that fight still has a chance and has plenty of time....golovkin does not get in the way of that

                      canelo did make his face red...he fought the exact fight golovkin wished for and golovkin still couldn't win convincingly(or at all in my book).....I don't have to tell you what canelo did to make golovkin scared...you know why? because I never said or implied golovkin was scared....you are the one, along with others, implying canelo is scared

                      so I asked...what did golovkin do to make canelo scared...

                      listen...if u think golovkin won the first fight its cool...I wouldn't argue....but I don't care what percentage of press or whomever had golovkin winning the 2nd fight...he did not win that fight...in fact he got beat....and the judged reflected that.....golovkin was supposed to roll through canelo according to golovkins fans....canelo was never hurt or rocked.....he fought golovkin well twice in two very different manners.....

                      you guys want canelo to be scared...it fits into the narrative everyone tried to run with before....calling him scared and saying hed never fight him...then when he did fight him everyone cried that he ran all night....then he fought Mexican style and beat him....now everyones crying again

                      im not even a canelo fan...but give the guy a break

                      golovkin ran his gums more than once when he should have stayed in line and gave canelo some respect....he whined about the khan fight and fought brook after....he whined about the drug test and still fought him...then he whined some more when he got his face marked up and lost....his own trainer felt he lost and when his trainer said that he canned him like a whiny baby

                      yet you guys think its canelo scared of golovkins in ring ability...LOL
                      Lmao @ Canelo moving up to LHW for all the big fights.

                      Sure. 39 year old Kovalev at a 171 catchweight? Bivol called him out and it’s radio silence, and canelos fan base is calling Bivol names for wanting a payday. Canelo won’t fight any big fights at 175. Doubt he will at 168 either. The second he said he was moving up to 168 he said he would no longer fight Mexicans. I’m sure that’s a coincidence and had nothing to do with Benevidez and Zurdo licking their chops...

                      But maybe he can win an IBO at 175. I’m sure everyone will claim the BS IBO belt is legit after that.

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