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  • Bronx23
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    #21
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    How do you account for the higher ratings for no name Brant vs a no name and Valdez vs a no name?
    No major sporting events were probably on those nights is my only guess.

    Gotta remember UFC was on at the same time Nate Diaz & DC were fighting

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bronx23
      No major sporting events were probably on those nights is my only guess.

      Gotta remember UFC was on at the same time Nate Diaz & DC were fighting
      Let in shows. That's why they're talking about putting Crawford on after the Heisman trophy ceremony. ESPN's highest rated boxing shows have been after they followed a high rated sports show.

      This is what I've been trying to explain to people when it comes to PBC shows. Their lead in shows are infomercials & local programming, not great shows to lead in with. So their ratings show they're brining people to the station specifically to watch boxing.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Bob Haymon
        Not really. It's just the deceptive way ratings are reported on this site that make it seem that way. Tank's previous fight averaged 553k but that was for less than 10 minutes of a much longer broadcast. The Showtime card as a whole only averaged about 350k viewers.

        Also, this was Navarette's first main event. The fights against Dogboe were co-main events.
        You do know these ratings don't come from boxingscene, right?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          Let in shows. That's why they're talking about putting Crawford on after the Heisman trophy ceremony. ESPN's highest rated boxing shows have been after they followed a high rated sports show.

          This is what I've been trying to explain to people when it comes to PBC shows. Their lead in shows are infomercials & local programming, not great shows to lead in with. So their ratings show they're brining people to the station specifically to watch boxing.
          I think ESPN also has shot itself in the foot with putting some cards on ESPN+ confusing the hell outta people probably turning them away. There's been plenty of times my grandfather has called me complaining that he can't find the channel to watch the fights not knowing it's on the the app

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            #25
            Nobody watched this it seems

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              #26
              Arum and Top Rank going to kill boxing being broadcast on ESPN. Thanks a lot Arum

              Espn banking on that Fury-Wilder rematch but truth is team wilder and Haymon can just go say know what we will fight the winner of Ruiz-Joshua rematch

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                #27
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                You do know these ratings don't come from boxingscene, right?
                I know they don't come from BoxingScene but you're echoing their biased reporting. BoxingScene wants you to believe that Tank fights get more viewers than ESPN fights because they'll only report on peak numbers or average for some very small segment of an entire broadcast. For ESPN they usually only tell you the average for the full broadcast which is always the lowest number compared to the peak or main event average.

                When you do an apples to apples comparison, the ESPN shows will almost always do better than Showtime in every category.
                Last edited by Bob Haymon; 08-20-2019, 10:45 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bob Haymon
                  I know they don't come from BoxingScene but you're echoing their biased reporting. BoxingScene wants you to believe that Tank fights get more viewers than ESPN fights because they'll only report on peak numbers or average for some very small segment of an entire broadcast. For ESPN they usually only tell you the average for the full broadcast which is always the lowest number compared to the peak or main event average.
                  Ok well show me the peak numbers for this fight.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    Ok well show me the peak numbers for this fight.
                    The peak numbers are only released to Nielsen subscribers. I'm not sure where BoxingScene gets their numbers from, it's up to them if they want to report on them or not but by only reporting on the lowest numbers for one promoter and the highest numbers for another it creates a distorted perception. Peak numbers are irrelevant anyways because they represent the smallest timeframe.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bob Haymon
                      The peak numbers are only released to Nielsen subscribers. I'm not sure where BoxingScene gets their numbers from, it's up to them if they want to report on them or not but by only reporting on the lowest numbers for one promoter and the highest numbers for another it creates a distorted perception. Peak numbers are irrelevant anyways because they represent the smallest timeframe.
                      And boxingscene is using public numbers released by Nielsen, not from a subscription.

                      According to Nielsen Media Research data released Tuesday, an average of 471,000
                      Have you ever noticed boxingscene writes articles about ratings after a user has already posted it when a source? If they're using a Nielsen subscription they would get the info before users on the site. Even the guy I used for the source didn't post the peak. But he posted peak for UFC prelims




                      But you think it's some boxingscene conspiracy against Top Rank
                      Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 08-20-2019, 11:32 PM.

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