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  • FredWreck
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    #51
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Pac s top 4 already. He shouldn't have to fight and beat spence and crawford as they haven't fought each other yet?
    It shouldn't take a 40 year old, former flyweight with 71 fights to break ice and get ball rolling
    They've not separated themselves from each other.
    Thurman might be the best of the trio.
    Thurman is currently the proven best of the 3. That’s a fact.

    His resume has:
    DG
    Porter
    Pacquiao (loss)

    Who’ve Spence and Crawford fought again?? Thought so.

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    • pasawayako
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      #52
      Originally posted by Quaccey
      The difference between Thurman and Spence? One was active and getting the job done while the other was nursing a injury and barely won his comeback fight.

      Well if he could then he'd fought him awhile ago Freddie is good at finding fighters at the right time.

      Freddie also stated he didn't want manny fighting either of them, but leave it to a fan to start something the fighter can't finish. TKO or KO to both.
      Roach also said that he don't want pac to fight mathysse.

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      • Donnie Herrera
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        #53
        Originally posted by pasawayako
        Roach also said that he don't want pac to fight mathysse.
        Lmao!!!...Pacquiao would steamroll Mathysse even if Mathysse was prime...Roach just cares a lot about Manny...but clearly Manny's being held back!!!...

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        • Quaccey
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          #54
          Originally posted by pasawayako
          Roach also said that he don't want pac to fight mathysse.
          I never knew he was in the class of a crawford or Spence. He's not even in Mikeys class less than Bradley, please find something more realistic to talk about. Remember he was up in age and hadn't won a legit fight against anyone in quite some time.

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          • Donnie Herrera
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            #55
            Originally posted by Quaccey
            The difference between Thurman and Spence? One was active and getting the job done while the other was nursing a injury and barely won his comeback fight.

            Well if he could then he'd fought him awhile ago Freddie is good at finding fighters at the right time.

            Freddie also stated he didn't want manny fighting either of them, but leave it to a fan to start something the fighter can't finish. TKO or KO to both.
            Thurman was never that good to begin with...that's why he's always hiding behind injuries...willing to come out of injury/retirement only for big money fights...you see how he wants a rematch with Manny...claimin' a draw right???...That's because he wants the biggest check...and that comes from fighting Manny...he don't really believe he beat Manny...This is chess not checkers...after Spence-Porter there will be only 3 champions at welterweight...Manny...Spence and Bud...Manny will take an interim fight against the likes of Jesse Vargas or even Shawn Porter if he's competitive with Spence...then Manny will unify with the Spence-Crawford winner...Manny wins it all...

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              #56
              Originally posted by Quaccey
              I never knew he was in the class of a crawford or Spence. He's not even in Mikeys class less than Bradley, please find something more realistic to talk about. Remember he was up in age and hadn't won a legit fight against anyone in quite some time.
              Lol...I think he meant during Mathysse's prime that Roach didn't want Pac to fight him...Roach is very overprotective of Manny...

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              • Quaccey
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                #57
                Originally posted by Donnie Herrera
                Thurman was never that good to begin with...that's why he's always hiding behind injuries...willing to come out of injury/retirement only for big money fights...you see how he wants a rematch with Manny...claimin' a draw right???...That's because he wants the biggest check...and that comes from fighting Manny...he don't really believe he beat Manny...This is chess not checkers...after Spence-Porter there will be only 3 champions at welterweight...Manny...Spence and Bud...Manny will take an interim fight against the likes of Jesse Vargas or even Shawn Porter if he's competitive with Spence...then Manny will unify with the Spence-Crawford winner...Manny wins it all...
                Is that so? He was the considered the best active at the weight before his injury took down both porter and Garcia, but he wasn't that good right? Please. Manny fought him cause he was the weakest of the champs, and he still got pushed at certain points in the fight.

                Draw? No Thurman knows he lost, but he did better than both broner and lucas did combined. That alone warrants a rematch especially since he was the champ at the time.

                How would porter be able to fight manny when he'll be on the shelf come this September? Unless you're acknowledging the fact manny is a opportunist and wants him and his most vulnerable, which he would most certainly be at.

                Manny attitude toward Spence after the Garcia told the whole story, something his fans don't seem to understand he doesn't want that fight. He'll fight Danny before either of those two.

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                • Quaccey
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Donnie Herrera
                  Thurman was never that good to begin with...that's why he's always hiding behind injuries...willing to come out of injury/retirement only for big money fights...you see how he wants a rematch with Manny...claimin' a draw right???...That's because he wants the biggest check...and that comes from fighting Manny...he don't really believe he beat Manny...This is chess not checkers...after Spence-Porter there will be only 3 champions at welterweight...Manny...Spence and Bud...Manny will take an interim fight against the likes of Jesse Vargas or even Shawn Porter if he's competitive with Spence...then Manny will unify with the Spence-Crawford winner...Manny wins it all...
                  Is that so? He was the considered the best active at the weight before his injury took down both porter and Garcia, but he wasn't that good right? Please. Manny fought him cause he was the weakest of the champs, and he still got pushed at certain points in the fight.

                  Draw? No Thurman knows he lost, but he did better than both broner and lucas did combined. That alone warrants a rematch especially since he was the champ at the time.

                  How would porter be able to fight manny when he'll be on the shelf come this September? Unless you're acknowledging the fact manny is a opportunist and wants him and his most vulnerable, which he would most certainly be at.

                  Manny's attitude toward Spence after the Garcia fight told the whole story, something his fans don't seem to understand he doesn't want that fight. He'll fight Danny before either of those two.

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                  • Quaccey
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Donnie Herrera
                    Lol...I think he meant during Mathysse's prime that Roach didn't want Pac to fight him...Roach is very overprotective of Manny...
                    He should've stated that instead of leaving the floor open for such conversations.

                    In his prime it would've been more competitive, but who's to say he wouldn't quit then? Only his power scared Roach nothing else

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Quaccey
                      Is that so? He was the considered the best active at the weight before his injury took down both porter and Garcia, but he wasn't that good right? Please. Manny fought him cause he was the weakest of the champs, and he still got pushed at certain points in the fight.

                      Draw? No Thurman knows he lost, but he did better than both broner and lucas did combined. That alone warrants a rematch especially since he was the champ at the time.

                      How would porter be able to fight manny when he'll be on the shelf come this September? Unless you're acknowledging the fact manny is a opportunist and wants him and his most vulnerable, which he would most certainly be at.

                      Manny's attitude toward Spence after the Garcia fight told the whole story, something his fans don't seem to understand he doesn't want that fight. He'll fight Danny before either of those two.
                      Danny Garcia...Shawn Porter and Keith Thurman are all B+ fighters...When Spence wanted that smoke...Thurman kept running and making excuses and getting injured only wanting to fight the weaker opponents in Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter...Danny Garcia is not even a real welterweight...that's why he hides out and only fights the same fights between him...Shawn and Keith while otherwise fighting guys coming up from 140 or lighter weight classes...he's trying to fight Mikey Garcia as we speak...none of today's welterweights can see Manny...only Spence and Crawford have a chance and Manny will beat both of them if they fight...Keith isn't running to fight Spence either...even after Spence handles Porter...Keith still will not want to see him..."it's runtime baby"!!!...

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