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  • Tails
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    #41
    I don't believe so a this point in time. Manny does not have the gas tank anymore to go 12 fast paced rounds, which he would need being the smaller man.

    Crawford and Spence are very solid, still in their primes, and more importantly still hungry.

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    • SplitSecond
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      #42
      Originally posted by Tails
      I don't believe so a this point in time. Manny does not have the gas tank anymore to go 12 fast paced rounds, which he would need being the smaller man.

      Crawford and Spence are very solid, still in their primes, and more importantly still hungry.
      I doubt Spence throws many more than 600 punches in the fight. Like he did vs brook, and even that brook is less active than 41 year old pacquiao. Crawford is more dangerous because he's not as timid as spence and he'll be thinking, and trading with Pacquiao trying to walk him into some big punches by stepping back and countering. Crawford can actually hurt guys with single shots, spence needs accumulation, and he's not the thinker or the counter puncher, nor does he have the footwork of an educated counter puncher. Spence's best counter moves are a pivot to his right and left hook and a catch and shoot left uppercut to the body, he's not very seamless with his adaptation neither, takes him about a round(i'm assuming this is credit for his corner). Pacquiao will be feinting spence and wack him with counters when he baits the jab off him, depending on how pacquiao's power affects him he'll either fight timid and try to box and get outboxed in a slower paced fight or abandon his jab like he often does when people are countering the sht out of his jab and come at pacquiao like a punching bag and get lit up and turned, and if Pacquiao can hurt Broner, Thurman and Margarito to the body he can hurt Spence who is very open to the body. It will be like the Thurman fight minus counter-punching, angles and movement and IQ of Thurman. It's an easier fight stylewise for Pacquiao, the only thing to worry about is if Spence can be active enough to nick rounds.
      Last edited by SplitSecond; 08-17-2019, 03:11 PM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by SplitSecond
        I doubt Spence throws many more than 600 punches in the fight. Like he did vs brook, and even that brook is less active than 41 year old pacquiao. Crawford is more dangerous because he's not as timid as spence and he'll be thinking, and trading with Pacquiao trying to walk him into some big punches by stepping back and countering. Crawford can actually hurt guys with single shots, spence needs accumulation, and he's not the thinker or the counter puncher, nor does he have the footwork of an educated counter puncher. Spence's best counter moves are a pivot to his right and left hook and a catch and shoot left uppercut to the body, he's not very seamless with his adaptation neither, takes him about a round(i'm assuming this is credit for his corner). Pacquiao will be feinting spence and wack him with counters when he baits the jab off him, depending on how pacquiao's power affects him he'll either fight timid and try to box and get outboxed in a slower paced fight or abandon his jab like he often does when people are countering the sht out of his jab and come at pacquiao like a punching bag and get lit up and turned, and if Pacquiao can hurt Broner, Thurman and Margarito to the body he can hurt Spence who is very open to the body. It will be like the Thurman fight minus counter-punching, angles and movement and IQ of Thurman. It's an easier fight stylewise for Pacquiao, the only thing to worry about is if Spence can be active enough to nick rounds.
        manny has declined and is now vulnerable to pressure

        Thurman best moments were when he applied pressure. And Thurman isn’t really a pressure guy

        Spence is pressure fighter. It a cross stance fight so I see the longer Spence jab being a problem for manny

        I don’t think judges would give decision to manny against either guy

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          #44
          Horn who isn’t a very good fighter pressure was getting to manny here and there

          Spence got this

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          • FredWreck
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            #45
            Originally posted by Sustanon
            PAC can dismantle spence and crawford, But they wont let PAC... destroying best fighters of the new era will definitely kill business around boxing..
            EXACTLY.

            What would happen if Pacquiao thrashed either one?
            The promoters would be BURNT.

            ERROL SPENCE has already stated and acknowledged, “Pacquiao will fight anybody.”

            He said it himself!

            Pacquiao would thrash Spence honestly. Much more skilled and experienced fighter, bar none.

            Sorry to al you PAC haters, but facts are facts.

            DEAL WITH IT and stfu.

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              #46
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
              Horn who isn’t a very good fighter pressure was getting to manny here and there

              Spence got this
              No, HEADBUTTS we’re getting to Manny’s state of consciousness.

              Do any of you actually WATCH boxing? Or are you just a bunch of casuals who barely started watching? Has anybody seen boxing in the 80’s,90’s, and 2000’s?!?

              Jesus Christ your boxing analytics are absolutely TERRIBLE.

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              • SplitSecond
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                #47
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                manny has declined and is now vulnerable to pressure

                Thurman best moments were when he applied pressure. And Thurman isn’t really a pressure guy

                Spence is pressure fighter. It a cross stance fight so I see the longer Spence jab being a problem for manny

                I don’t think judges would give decision to manny against either guy
                Thurman's best moments were when he was boxing, using his legs, using his feints and changing lvl's. He was getting picked apart when he was pressuring. It's true that Pacquiao is a lot more vulnerable to pressure right now, but people also shouldnt confuse what spence would do to be similar to horn, spence would fight closer to margarito if you want to draw a comparison(the margarito pacquiao fought, trained by garcia put a focus on the jab). Prime Pacquiao would chew spence up and spit him out, he wouldn't see the final bell.

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                • sicko
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                  #48
                  YES! I know we're ready to move on to the next ERA but they have to still prove it in the ring

                  Crawford and Spence have the weakest Resumes in the Divisions out of guys we consider as the Top 147 Fighters. Thurman, Porter, Garcia all fought each other and of course Pacquiao resume speaks for itself

                  So yeah I think Pacquiao speed gives them both problems especially early...however he is older and he did slow down the second half of that Thurman fight.

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                  • Zaroku
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Beercules
                    I love Manny but please stay away from Spence
                    Spence sleeps pac, me, jhonny.l...l

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #50
                      Pac s top 4 already. He shouldn't have to fight and beat spence and crawford as they haven't fought each other yet?
                      It shouldn't take a 40 year old, former flyweight with 71 fights to break ice and get ball rolling
                      They've not separated themselves from each other.
                      Thurman might be the best of the trio.
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 08-17-2019, 04:20 PM.

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