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  • #51
    Originally posted by thack View Post
    Warren is absolutely right about this .As I've said anywhere else in the world and 'not so fast Eddie' would have a point but Saudi Arabia with all it's backward rules and Human rights issues .I didn't know that the Americans were advising not to travel.

    This is a money grab nothing more , plain to see and another show that Eddie needs to scrap......he's getting good at that!

    Edward knows his golden goose is about to get laid again.
    Americans haven't been advised not to travel to Saudi Arabia. Warren is talking bullshit there.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Unidentified View Post
      I’m going to leave you to think about that one...

      Pot.Kettle.Black.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
        Madison Square Garden is landmark ********* target at level 3 or 4 in N.Y . Think the safety protocol will hold up with the IBF and they wont realize this when hes voted down ?
        Make no mistake I don't believe Ruiz is actually doing this for those reasons but rather because it gives him leverage & an excuse to hold out for a better offer. I'm merely saying that he will be able to use these things as excuses in court & they'll work because it's justifiable to agree with them & that's what the judge will do.
        Originally posted by Taaj Manzoor View Post
        Ruiz won’t be deported for being too good looking though!
        Lmao,considering hes in Saudi Arabia where they buy out everyone almost in every sport possible he might get deported for seducing travelling Sumo wrestlers wives though, theres rich Japanese businesswoman that buy Andy Ruiz' ilk & they pay by the pound. 🐖

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        • #54
          LOL!! Good luck Eddie. You going to court in America. Good luck getting a Christian judge to force another Christian to go to a ****** country that just had a news reporter murder.

          I dont think anything will happen to AR if he goes. If the King wants AR safe, not a hair on his body will be touched. He just needs to have his people talk to the King directly to ensure a safe and fair fight.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by kushking View Post
            It has lil to do with what the government says & everything to do with common sense semantics. Mexico is a much safer place than Saudi Arabia & I should know as I have been to both numerous times. In Mexico as long as he doesn't do anything ****** he's just as safe as the US & is allowed to do everything just as in the US & more,Saudi Arabia on the other hand is a back ass backwards place where he can't even bring Women with him if he doesn't want them getting arrested for ****** sht,& it's all the way around the world from the US & has a human rights record as bad as italy in the dark ages as well as suicide bombers etc.. And in SA he has to worry about what judge,ref, commission etc. will be combined with the fact that he will be completely alone there without his family & loved ones surely do to ****** laws there.

            There was a group of men arrested & deported for being too good looking & therefore supposedly going to cause Saudi women to lust for their sausage according to closeted Saudi police, which they must be gay to have found them too good looking
            First off forget judge, ref, commission, etc that is completely separate from safety, its already been sanctioned by the IBF, a judge wouldn't even entertain that line.

            OK now, Mexico is much safer than SA, really?

            Homicide Rates By Country:
            Mexico - 24.8 per 100,000 people 87 worst worldwide.
            United States - 5.3 per 100,000 94th worst worldwide.
            Saudi Arabia - 1.3 per 100,000 155 worst worldwide.

            You're going to put that argument in front of a judge as a reason for breaking a contract, you'd accept Mexico, 20 times more dangerous but not Saudi Arabia.

            Of course his friends and family can come, seriously where are you getting this from? Women can travel to Saudi Arabia, single women can go there, also this is just in general, not just because he will be a VIP for a $100 million event they are putting on.

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            • #56
              Warren actually talking sense here. Historical precedent is on Hearn and Joshua's side, but if this goes to court, the judge will ask both sides to make their arguments and if Ruiz can make a persuasive argument that he wants to fulfill the rematch but has genuine fears of travelling to the proposed venue, I suspect the judge would listen. Can he make that argument? For Saudi Arabia, I think, yes, he might be able to. Should have just gone for Cardiff...

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              • #57
                Originally posted by andocom View Post
                First off forget judge, ref, commission, etc that is completely separate from safety, its already been sanctioned by the IBF, a judge wouldn't even entertain that line.

                OK now, Mexico is much safer than SA, really?

                Homicide Rates By Country:
                Mexico - 24.8 per 100,000 people 87 worst worldwide.
                United States - 5.3 per 100,000 94th worst worldwide.
                Saudi Arabia - 1.3 per 100,000 155 worst worldwide.

                You're going to put that argument in front of a judge as a reason for breaking a contract, you'd accept Mexico, 20 times more dangerous but not Saudi Arabia.

                Of course his friends and family can come, seriously where are you getting this from? Women can travel to Saudi Arabia, single women can go there, also this is just in general, not just because he will be a VIP for a $100 million event they are putting on.
                I'm saying he can use these things as excuses & a judge would find them reasonable for many reasons. And women in Saudi Arabia have to be accompanied by men & often get locked up for ****** sht. Theres no alcohol allowed & basic things like playing music or dressing normally or simple sht gets you arrested & people still get disappeared over there & never heard from again..Not only that but none of his crew or family would likely feel comfortable being there,& its far more dangerous than mexico despite your claims based on crime rates rather than crime against foreigners & especially americans.

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                • #58
                  Saudi Arabia is a dump

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post
                    Warren actually talking sense here. Historical precedent is on Hearn and Joshua's side, but if this goes to court, the judge will ask both sides to make their arguments and if Ruiz can make a persuasive argument that he wants to fulfill the rematch but has genuine fears of travelling to the proposed venue, I suspect the judge would listen. Can he make that argument? For Saudi Arabia, I think, yes, he might be able to. Should have just gone for Cardiff...
                    Ruiz will lose in court....Saudi Arabia is on the same level warning as Mexico and Ruiz wanted to fight in Mexico.

                    All Hearn lawyers have to do is play back or read all of the comment of Ruiz wanting to stage the fight in Mexico.

                    This isn't about safety, this is about Ruiz wanting to dictate terms which he can't do because he signed a rematch clause giving Team Hearn complete control over the rematch structure.

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                    • #60
                      I didn’t know you couldn’t drink in Saudi Arabia. Gotta cross that off my places to go.

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