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  • HeadBodyBodyBody
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    #241
    Originally posted by apollocreed
    Did you even read my post?? Doesn't look like it. I said Evander has said himself, and I've seen the words come from his own lips, that he hit his peak at heavyweight around age 34 when he beat Tyson.
    "I was always hurt in the 80s, and in the 90s my body was changing. When I hit 34, shoot, everything clicked into place. That was when I was at my best."

    Link: http://proboxing.hu/en/fresh/day-eva...rs-retirement/

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      #242
      Originally posted by apollocreed
      Did you even read my post?? Doesn't look like it. I said Evander has said himself, and I've seen the words come from his own lips, that he hit his peak at heavyweight around age 34 when he beat Tyson. Before that he struggled with injuries and health issues. So you're arguing with Holyfield himself.
      Also, it was Bowe's fault the fight didn't happen, as it was Tyson's that the Lewis fight didn't take place years earlier.

      Like I also said, if you're trying that hard to discredit Lewis's excellent career and resume, you clearly have a biased agenda. His career when viewed as a whole is indisputably excellent.
      He had the best career of the era, beat everybody else. If you're so intent on picking holes in his career this back and forth could go on for a long time.
      It seems like you didn't read anything I said.

      You still talk about who's fault it was. Why does that matter? The fight didn't happen so i'm not giving fantasy points.

      I clearly have a biased agenda

      Did you know I'm known as a big lennox lewis fan? Goddamn muppets i'm discussing with on the forum these days. What are you 18?

      I watched Lewis' whole career live, I didn't watch it back. Do you understand that? I don't see anywhere I 'discredited' him. I said things that were the school of thought at the time.

      The guys he fought were good, but not great. That's a fact. I don't care what you think now, and how you want to revise history and make it out as if he beat a bunch of world beaters. because he didn't.

      He just had a good solid high level average opponent. But unfortunately didn't fight Tyson or Holyfield or Bowe when they all mattered.

      And those were the fights we cared about.

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        #243
        Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
        "I was always hurt in the 80s, and in the 90s my body was changing. When I hit 34, shoot, everything clicked into place. That was when I was at my best."

        Link: http://proboxing.hu/en/fresh/day-eva...rs-retirement/
        It's embarrassing to see youngsters trying to look at history in a different way than it actually happened.

        Trying to argue a near 40 year old is anywhere near his peak is embarrassing.

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        • HeadBodyBodyBody
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          #244
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          It's embarrassing to see youngsters trying to look at history in a different way than it actually happened.

          Trying to argue a near 40 year old is anywhere near his peak is embarrassing.
          Hey man, listen, I was just providing a source for the quote. Evander said it, not me, that he was at his best at age 34, around 1996-97 (he was age 34 for both Tyson fights). In the same interview, admittedly, he says he started having various issues after that, with not managing his money properly, family troubles, etc. That's the man's own words.

          Now if you want to say that two years after Tyson II, when Holyfield says he was at his peak, that Lewis should get some sort of diminished credit for beating Holyfield, well that's your opinion. But get it straight. It's two years later from 'peak' to the Lewis fights in 1999. And Holyfield was 36 for the first Lewis fight.

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            #245
            Although I feel AJ's frustration he still has a very long way to go in order to be on the same level as Lennox Lewis.

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            • apollocreed
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              #246
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              It seems like you didn't read anything I said.

              You still talk about who's fault it was. Why does that matter? The fight didn't happen so i'm not giving fantasy points.

              I clearly have a biased agenda

              Did you know I'm known as a big lennox lewis fan? Goddamn muppets i'm discussing with on the forum these days. What are you 18?

              I watched Lewis' whole career live, I didn't watch it back. Do you understand that? I don't see anywhere I 'discredited' him. I said things that were the school of thought at the time.

              The guys he fought were good, but not great. That's a fact. I don't care what you think now, and how you want to revise history and make it out as if he beat a bunch of world beaters. because he didn't.

              He just had a good solid high level average opponent. But unfortunately didn't fight Tyson or Holyfield or Bowe when they all mattered.

              And those were the fights we cared about.
              Well if you did read my post, you're ignoring the fact that I pointed out that Holyfield has said himself that he hit his peak in his mid 30's when he fought Tyson. Lewis only fought him 2 and a half years later.
              Last edited by apollocreed; 08-17-2019, 02:21 PM.

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                #247
                Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
                "I was always hurt in the 80s, and in the 90s my body was changing. When I hit 34, shoot, everything clicked into place. That was when I was at my best."

                Link: http://proboxing.hu/en/fresh/day-eva...rs-retirement/
                Exactly, thank you.

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                • apollocreed
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                  #248
                  Originally posted by nacho daddy
                  go to hell lymie you useless English grasping at straws. puerto rico part of the US and their champs ARE NOT CALLED AMERICANS THEY ARE PR CHAMPS. Manny is filipino champ not American where his country was protectorate of US
                  Whatever dude don't cry about it. Welsh people consider themselves British, same as Scottish. Bit of education for you. You're welcome lol.

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                  • HeadBodyBodyBody
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                    #249
                    Originally posted by ArturoBalboa
                    Absolute bull****, one of the biggest urban myths in boxing.
                    Rewatch the fight, Lennox started slow admittedly, but then started to find a home for the jab and without really following up with anything else tattooed Bruno’s face with it until his eye was nearly shut.
                    The tide had begun to turn before he landed that huge left hand and I’m pretty sure the judges had it even on the scorecards at the time of the stoppage.
                    Bruno was winning on one scorecard and the fight was a draw on the other two. Agree with you, Lewis just started slow, but then methodically broke Bruno down

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                    • LacedUp
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by apollocreed
                      Well if you did read my post, you're ignoring the fact that I pointed out that Holyfield has said himself that he hit his peak in his mid 30's when he fought Tyson. Lewis only fought him 2 and a half years later.
                      I did read it. Nevertheless, as I said in my first post - Holyfield is Lewis' best win, but it would have been better if they fought earlier.

                      The rest of the post still stands. It's pretty much Lewis' only real great win.

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