Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua: Lennox Lewis is a Clown, I Don't Respect Him!

[apollocreed]

he was Welch

It's spelled Welsh, not Welch, and Wales is part of UK.

[NachoMan]

Agreed. Lennox is one of the most overrated fighters of all time. AJ, however, has proven nothing thus far in his career, so he shouldn't be talking **** about Lennox.

I don't think AJ has said anything at all about Lewis' career. Of course he recognizes his achievements. He just thinks he's a douche for **** talking the new generation.

[alexguiness]

This thread is useful in drawing out the AJ cuckold fanbase that DKSAB.

[Lomasexual]

Nah.

You disagree, but you aren't even talking about the same thing.

You're post is about trying to apportion blame. I.E. who is responsible for a situation existing.

I'm talking about how to respond to a situation that exists - how AJ can come out looking better than Lewis.

You are talking past, I'm talking future. You're trying to establish right and wrong, I'm talking about pragmatic action.

I can't really consider your 'Nah' to be a valid response when it isn't even talking about the same thing.

[LacedUp]

Like I already pointed out elsewhere - I'm a Holyfield fan too, and Evander has said on record that he hit his peak around the age of 34 at heavyweight, when he beat Tyson. Lewis wanted to fight him straight after that, and it was only 2 and a half years later that they did fight, so it's not like he fought a shot Holyfield, just maybe slightly past peak.
Bowe, we all know who's fault that was the fight didn't happen.
Lewis didn't avoid anyone, he beat everyone in front of him when they agreed to face him, apart from his two defeats, which he avenged.
Like I said, if you try to pick too many wholes in his career, you're on shaky ground and just start to look like you have a biased agenda very quickly.

I never said Lewis ducked anyone. Where did I say he did? I stated FACTS:

1) Never fought Bowe.
2) Never fought Tyson in his prime or close.
3) Didn't fight Holyfield in his prime or close.

Holyfield was way past his peak in those fights. Still put up a good effort in the second fight which many had him win btw.

I lived through that era and watched it unfold. Holyfield was in his late 30s. He was considered his best in the early to mid 90s and had heaaaps of problems in and after that time. Heart problems etc. To suggest he was anywhere near his best after fighting below par opposition once a year and suffering with health problems for a while, is just uneducated nonsense.

Lewis fought a lot of 'good' guys,. That's what I said in the beginning. He didn't fight a lot of 'great' guys. He fought Holyfield (old) and Klitschko.

[SweetPbfAli]

Indeed you are Anthony, You are a quitter for starters. The American 5-1 underdog Oliver McCall upset Lennox Lewis in 1994 for the WBC at Wembly, Lewis took the rematch in the United States -- no crying about it ( Pun Intended ). Rumors are you wont dare to do the same and meet the standard that Lennox Lewis set for you, you disgrace Great Britain.

There is a reason Eddie commands you to shut your mouth.

For what it's worth, Lewis didn't immediately rematch Oliver.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
We won't know 'legacy' of Joshua vs Lennox until Joshua retires from the sport. Now, I would imagine there's a lengthy line of Anthony haters who would readily say that moment is going to be soon upon us. I don't happen to agree. IMO, Joshua stomps Ruiz into 3 Sundays past whatever the rematch date is. I think it will be a baby blimp massacre.

Bottom line, I like Lennox and Joshua both. They have both had some really memorable fights. So I'll just patiently wait for the rematch, then we'll see how the unification picture looks. Something tells me we fans are in for some really great HW fights upcoming. I'm all for it.

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Originally Posted by Ake-Dawg
What are changes in the rematch that allows Joshua to wipe the floor with Ruiz? With the loss to Ruiz, doesn't Lewis criticsm seem more realistic than just hate.

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
How do you expect me to know what modifications in training Joshua's trainers will implement? I just don't happen to go by the Joshua hater's 'he doesn't have it in him' philosophy, that's all. He said he wasn't properly prepared, and it was a last minute change in opponents, so I will take him at his word for now. As for Lennox, you won't have to look far to find posters commenting about how he is jealous of Joshua's fame. I'll take that at face value until proven otherwise.

Proven otherwise? So because people on the internet say he is jealous he is, until proven otherwise? Ohhhhkayyy.

As for changes....you stated he was gonna wipe the floor with him in the rematch? How? Why do you think? Just because you want him to? What's the basis for your opinion?

Jealousy is the least of my concerns on this issue.

As for Lennox criticism, he made some good points, but I simply believe Joshua looked out of sorts/unprepared. And that first punch that dropped him pretty much had him in even deeper out of sorts. What specifically will he do differently? Train a whole camp for Ruiz, all the while studying his opponent at every angle. Specifics about specifics? Beats me. I have no idea about his specific training routine in camp, nor do I really care. Sorry if those aren't the answers you want to hear.

[apollocreed]

I never said Lewis ducked anyone. Where did I say he did? I stated FACTS:

1) Never fought Bowe.
2) Never fought Tyson in his prime or close.
3) Didn't fight Holyfield in his prime or close.

Holyfield was way past his peak in those fights. Still put up a good effort in the second fight which many had him win btw.

I lived through that era and watched it unfold. Holyfield was in his late 30s. He was considered his best in the early to mid 90s and had heaaaps of problems in and after that time. Heart problems etc. To suggest he was anywhere near his best after fighting below par opposition once a year and suffering with health problems for a while, is just uneducated nonsense.

Lewis fought a lot of 'good' guys,. That's what I said in the beginning. He didn't fight a lot of 'great' guys. He fought Holyfield (old) and Klitschko.

Did you even read my post?? Doesn't look like it. I said Evander has said himself, and I've seen the words come from his own lips, that he hit his peak at heavyweight around age 34 when he beat Tyson. Before that he struggled with injuries and health issues. So you're arguing with Holyfield himself.
Also, it was Bowe's fault the fight didn't happen, as it was Tyson's that the Lewis fight didn't take place years earlier.

Like I also said, if you're trying that hard to discredit Lewis's excellent career and resume, you clearly have a biased agenda. His career when viewed as a whole is indisputably excellent.
He had the best career of the era, beat everybody else. If you're so intent on picking holes in his career this back and forth could go on for a long time.

[nacho daddy]

It's spelled Welsh, not Welch, and Wales is part of UK.

he aint English and Phillipines was part of US and Puerto rico but we do not call Manny an American champ and in PR champs are called PUERTO RICANS not americans

[nacho daddy]

It's spelled Welsh, not Welch, and Wales is part of UK.

go to hell lymie you useless English grasping at straws. puerto rico part of the US and their champs ARE NOT CALLED AMERICANS THEY ARE PR CHAMPS. Manny is filipino champ not American where his country was protectorate of US