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Originally posted by ArturoBalboa View PostI actually strongly agree with like 90% of the stuff you post on here, but couldn’t disagree more over Lewis.
If you scrutinise most resumes enough you can find holes but Lewis cleaned out that division and avenged his losses. The only guy he didn’t fight, who some considered the boogeyman of the division was bowe, who dumped his belt rather than face Lennox. And while I’m not one for triangle theories, the manner in which he annihilated golota, who beat up and pretty much retired bowe over two fights leads me to believe he’d have beaten Bowe as well.
As well as the resume I’ve always regarded Lewis as one the greatest heavyweights I’ve ever seen just from the eye test and the attributes he possessed. Obviously a great fighter at distance with deceptive speed, great timing and accuracy, one of the best jabs in the division and a bomb of a right hand. But you get past that and he could handle himself on the side, knew how to tie up, lean on and use his weight advantage but could trade as well with rapid short hooks and uppercut combinations.
I honestly think when he was switched on and on his game, and not snarfing pizza or messing about with movie/media distractions in camp, he was was one of the all time great heavyweights.
For example, who would you list as his top 3 wins? Just out of curiosity.
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Lewis sees through the hype on AJ...
Has no respect and knows he would have crushed AJ had they fought.
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Originally posted by apollocreed View PostIf you look at his overall resume, only an excellent fighter could have that list of names. Lots of good fighters and some very good ones. Some past prime, I accept Tyson was well past his best, but Lewis had wanted to fight him since he came out of prison but he avoided Lewis.
He beat Ruddock, Tucker, Mercer, Briggs, Vitali, Golota, Holyfield, Tua the list goes on. Avenged both his losses. It speaks for itself, if you can’t accept his career was excellent then it can only be because you don’t want to.
After those two, Holyfield of course way past his prime by that time, and Vitali in his prime rightfully speaking, the list becomes quite 'meh'.
I mean you're mentioning Ruddock, Tucker and Briggs for instance. In no way shape or form are those guys anything but contenders (i know briggs won a version of the belts but he was never considered the man). Mercer was a pretty good and tough fighter, so was Tua. Golota... I mean, I'll let that one sit.
Lewis beat a lot of good contenders. Sort of like AJs list of Parker, Povetkin, Whyte and these type of guys. But no one really cares about that.
Resumes are won and lost at the top, and Lewis just didn't fight guys at the top - He didn't fight Tyson, he didn't fight Holyfield (at the top), and he didn't fight Bowe.
Not saying he didn't try but facts are facts.
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Originally posted by NachoMan View PostThis is true. In real time I was almost always complaining about Lewis' fights. So cautious, so boring most of the time. Then came the Klitschko's who brought new lows, so now I look back somewhat fondly on Lennox. I guess this is the way it goes for all fighters. Time tends to add luster, strangely, instead of the opposite.
Those guys completely blacked out the division for a full decade.
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You’re more critical of someone when you:
A) Have really high expectations of them
B) Don’t like the person
I’m guessing it’s a little bit of both for Lewis. His resume speaks for itself, he probably sees parts of himself in Joshua and expects a lot more from someone as gifted as he is.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostYes there were some good names, I'm not arguing that at all. I think we can all agree that his best win is Holyfield followed by Vitali.
After those two, Holyfield of course way past his prime by that time, and Vitali in his prime rightfully speaking, the list becomes quite 'meh'.
I mean you're mentioning Ruddock, Tucker and Briggs for instance. In no way shape or form are those guys anything but contenders (i know briggs won a version of the belts but he was never considered the man). Mercer was a pretty good and tough fighter, so was Tua. Golota... I mean, I'll let that one sit.
Lewis beat a lot of good contenders. Sort of like AJs list of Parker, Povetkin, Whyte and these type of guys. But no one really cares about that.
Resumes are won and lost at the top, and Lewis just didn't fight guys at the top - He didn't fight Tyson, he didn't fight Holyfield (at the top), and he didn't fight Bowe.
Not saying he didn't try but facts are facts.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostI'm not saying he didn't do good things in his career. but his resume gets overrated nowadays for some reason.
For example, who would you list as his top 3 wins? Just out of curiosity.
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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff
We won't know 'legacy' of Joshua vs Lennox until Joshua retires from the sport. Now, I would imagine there's a lengthy line of Anthony haters who would readily say that moment is going to be soon upon us. I don't happen to agree. IMO, Joshua stomps Ruiz into 3 Sundays past whatever the rematch date is. I think it will be a baby blimp massacre.
Bottom line, I like Lennox and Joshua both. They have both had some really memorable fights. So I'll just patiently wait for the rematch, then we'll see how the unification picture looks. Something tells me we fans are in for some really great HW fights upcoming. I'm all for it.
Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostWhat are changes in the rematch that allows Joshua to wipe the floor with Ruiz?
With the loss to Ruiz, doesn't Lewis criticsm seem more realistic than just hate.
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