Anyone who says they want MayPac2 is NOT a boxing fan. You're a hypocrite.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Let's get the obvious out of the way.

Mayweather/Castillo 1. The fight most of you say was a robbery (I had it EXTREMELY close for Castillo, but nowhere near a robbery). Floyd said he hurt his shoulder the last day of training and it affected him in the fight. Based on his performance, there was clear evidence of this. So with a hurt shoulder the guy was able to clearly take AT LEAST 5 rounds off a healthy Castillo.

Mayweather/Pacquiao. You got Manny saying NOTHING about an injury, lied on a form saying he wasn't injured, gets caught trying to sneak a Torodol shot after saying he wasn't injured, goes on to win TWO rounds clearly against Floyd. I don't care what excuses you come up with. He won TWO clear rounds.


Now, why did Floyd do a rematch against Castillo? Because it WAS razor close. The only people who had Manny even close to beating Floyd are the people who ignore defensive brilliance and count punches on arms especially when it's Floyd. Manny won TWO clear rounds. 4 and 6. Everything else was a wash or a swing. The MOST you could give Manny as a logical viewer is 4 rounds - two of which were more about Floyd not turning it up because he didn't need to. Still not a close fight.


FOUR YEARS AFTER Manny wins two rounds against this guy, people are STILL screaming for a Floyd rematch. Even if you buy the excuse his shoulder was hurt, he didn't perform anywhere near like Floyd did against Castillo under the same circumstances. The guy didn't show up.

Let's quantify this.

• Manny clearly wins TWO rounds against Floyd = NSB screams for a rematch constantly for over FOUR YEARS and swears he had a hurt shoulder.
  
• Manny gets DROPPED and KNOCKED OUT COLD by Marquez in the 4th fight = NSB accuses Marquez of running from a flat out unnecessary rematch and swears he cheated.

YET....

• Manny wins a RAZOR CLOSE decision against Thurman = "meh, no need for rematch".
  
• Manny wins a RAZOR CLOSE decision against Bradley in the second fight = "meh, no need for a third".
  
• Manny LOSES a close unanimous decision against Horn = "meh, no need for rematch, Horn cheated".

So basically, if Manny wins, even if it's RAZOR CLOSE and disputed, you just want him to keep it moving, but when he loses - and he usually loses dominant (unanimous or knockout), it's not only an excuse, you just can't accept when superior boxers beat the guy. That makes you a hypocrite.

A rematch is warranted when you lose close because things aren't resolved. It's not warranted when you lose wide or get sparked. Certainly, Lennox Lewis was the exception, but those days are gone. Now, you need to show up the first time and if you let it go close, we need a rematch to know for sure.

Manny ducked the rematch with Horn, which was close. He's ducking the rematch with Thurman. Which makes no sense because he took the rematch with Bradley and sealed it perfectly with a dominant decision. I don't want to hear about age, you guys are saying "Manny's fighting like he's 30 again!" Okay, let him rematch like he's 30 again.

STOP asking for a Floyd rematch. The guy lost wide. You don't think so, but you're the minority. Everyone who knows boxing watched Money box circles around the guy for 10 rounds. It's over.

Manny has unfinished business with Horn and now Thurman that he should clean up first. THEN he needs to look at the Porter/Spence winner. THEN he needs to look at the Porter/Spence loser. THEN he needs to retire. That's all.

[Blackclouds]

I agree 100%

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Dàmn this is pure facts. I haven’t seen a thread this good in a long time. According to the biased media and his fans losses don’t matter.

[FredWreck]

Wow completely fabricated and bias statements in here.
The mods here should close threads where BS is spewed.

Close thread now please.

[Stokely]

This is all facts. The only people who want rematches are pac tards, because deep down they know Manny lost by a wide UD.

[mxtali]

Don’t have much to argue against in this thread, just that Pac Bradley 2 def wasn’t razor close. Manny won that pretty clearly and most people thought he won fight 1 which is why nobody in hell wanted a third fight.

[Larry the boss]

Lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!

[champion4ever]

The fight wasn't even remotely close enough to justify or be under consideration for a rematch. However, to be fair it wasn't Manny Pacquiao or his fans who broached the subject of a May/Pac2. It was none other than Money May himself.

Perhaps, he was just playing to the cameras but he said he wanted to do the rematch and Pac agreed to it, while the both of them were touring Japan. Most boxing fans respected the fact that Mayweather was happily retired.

[Combat Talk Radio]

The fight wasn't even remotely close enough to justify or be under consideration for a rematch. However, to be fair it wasn't Manny Pacquiao or his fans who broached the subject of a May/Pac2. It was none other than Money May himself.

Perhaps, he was just playing to the cameras but he said he wanted to do the rematch and Pac agreed to it, while the both of them were touring Japan. Most boxing fans respected the fact that Mayweather was happily retired.

How many times does Floyd need to troll people before they learn that he's trolling?

He did it with the UFC video, he did it with the Japan video, he did it with the Broner videos, he did it in the Philippines video...that's Floyd. To quote Roy Jones: "When will you n's learn?"

Don’t have much to argue against in this thread, just that Pac Bradley 2 def wasn’t razor close. Manny won that pretty clearly and most people thought he won fight 1 which is why nobody in hell wanted a third fight.

To quote Keef: "Can you count?"

Pac/Bradley 2? Ended 7 rounds to 5. That's ONE round off from a draw. That's CLOSE. Bradley damn near swept the first half of the fight and was walking Manny down until he gassed. Nobody says Bradley won that, but it was a CLOSE, clear loss for him.

via GIPHY

Pac/Bradley 3? THAT was a wide win for Manny.

[strykr619]

Let's get the obvious out of the way.

Mayweather/Castillo 1. The fight most of you say was a robbery (I had it EXTREMELY close for Castillo, but nowhere near a robbery). Floyd said he hurt his shoulder the last day of training and it affected him in the fight. Based on his performance, there was clear evidence of this. So with a hurt shoulder the guy was able to clearly take AT LEAST 5 rounds off a healthy Castillo.

Mayweather/Pacquiao. You got Manny saying NOTHING about an injury, lied on a form saying he wasn't injured, gets caught trying to sneak a Torodol shot after saying he wasn't injured, goes on to win TWO rounds clearly against Floyd. I don't care what excuses you come up with. He won TWO clear rounds.


Now, why did Floyd do a rematch against Castillo? Because it WAS razor close. The only people who had Manny even close to beating Floyd are the people who ignore defensive brilliance and count punches on arms especially when it's Floyd. Manny won TWO clear rounds. 4 and 6. Everything else was a wash or a swing. The MOST you could give Manny as a logical viewer is 4 rounds - two of which were more about Floyd not turning it up because he didn't need to. Still not a close fight.


FOUR YEARS AFTER Manny wins two rounds against this guy, people are STILL screaming for a Floyd rematch. Even if you buy the excuse his shoulder was hurt, he didn't perform anywhere near like Floyd did against Castillo under the same circumstances. The guy didn't show up.

Let's quantify this.

• Manny clearly wins TWO rounds against Floyd = NSB screams for a rematch constantly for over FOUR YEARS and swears he had a hurt shoulder.
  
• Manny gets DROPPED and KNOCKED OUT COLD by Marquez in the 4th fight = NSB accuses Marquez of running from a flat out unnecessary rematch and swears he cheated.

YET....

• Manny wins a RAZOR CLOSE decision against Thurman = "meh, no need for rematch".
  
• Manny wins a RAZOR CLOSE decision against Bradley in the second fight = "meh, no need for a third".
  
• Manny LOSES a close unanimous decision against Horn = "meh, no need for rematch, Horn cheated".

So basically, if Manny wins, even if it's RAZOR CLOSE and disputed, you just want him to keep it moving, but when he loses - and he usually loses dominant (unanimous or knockout), it's not only an excuse, you just can't accept when superior boxers beat the guy. That makes you a hypocrite.

A rematch is warranted when you lose close because things aren't resolved. It's not warranted when you lose wide or get sparked. Certainly, Lennox Lewis was the exception, but those days are gone. Now, you need to show up the first time and if you let it go close, we need a rematch to know for sure.

Manny ducked the rematch with Horn, which was close. He's ducking the rematch with Thurman. Which makes no sense because he took the rematch with Bradley and sealed it perfectly with a dominant decision. I don't want to hear about age, you guys are saying "Manny's fighting like he's 30 again!" Okay, let him rematch like he's 30 again.

STOP asking for a Floyd rematch. The guy lost wide. You don't think so, but you're the minority. Everyone who knows boxing watched Money box circles around the guy for 10 rounds. It's over.

Manny has unfinished business with Horn and now Thurman that he should clean up first. THEN he needs to look at the Porter/Spence winner. THEN he needs to look at the Porter/Spence loser. THEN he needs to retire. That's all.

Except for Mayweather stans, its UNIVERSALLY known that Pac fought with a bum shoulder and was not allowed a painkiller unlike floyd who was for his hands due to "paperwork"....

Even Media pundits know that. The only reason why PBF bumsniffers don't want this to happen is because they saw how their "god" looked like against Conor and it wasn't pretty. They see that Pac is still active and they don't want "TBE" to lose his precious 0.