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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    The Canelo doesn’t want to give GGG a payday excuse is crap

    It’s been mentioned here how Canelo Alvarez is the most privileged fighter in boxing history.

    He was given a belt at a record breaking age for fighting Matthew Hatton, he’s gotten four gift decisions, he’s no longer required to fight WBC mandatories, he isn’t being required to give the former unified middleweight champion a rematch, etc. etc.

    Let’s ad “he doesn’t like GGG so he doesn’t have to fight him” to the list of spoiled brat $h!t he does.

    I have never, in my history of watching boxing, heard “he doesn’t like the guy” as an excuse for a fight not happening.

    Never. Not once.

    I’ve heard the opposite. They’re such good friends they won’t find. But never that they won’t fight because they hate each other too much.

    In fact, that’s usually the reason the fight sells. I feel like I hear the bad blood thing in every fight promotion but NEVER as a reason the fight won’t happen.

    Here’s a list off the top of my head of fighters would fought when they hated each other. If anyone wants to add, or point out a time where two fighters hated each other so much they didn’t fight, it would be appreciated.

    Mike Tyson bit Lennox Lewis in the leg during a press conference and stated he would eat his children. Lewis said he would **** Mike Tyson’s sister. They fought.

    Fernando Vargas and Oscar De La Hoya hated each other way more than GGG and Canelo do. They fought.

    Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera hated each other. They fought three times.

    Stanley Ketchel and Billy Papke hated each other. They fought four times.

    Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier hated each other so much that Frazier continued to say terrible things about Ali even when he was clearly suffering from Parkinson’s disease. They fought three times.

    Wladimir Klitschko clearly hated Tyson Fury during the lead up to their fight. They fought.

    Roy Jones and Antonio Tarver Hayes each other yet fought three times

    Ricardo Mayorga called Oscar De La Hoya a b***h and insulted his wife. They fought.

    Fernando Vargas and Ross Thompson got into a fight at a press conference and ended up swinging at each other. They fought.

    Miguel Cotto fought a rematch with Antonio Margarito after suspecting Margarito put plaster in his gloves during the first fight.
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    More importantly GGG is “lawyering up” because DAZN is in shambles? GGG is about to fight for a World Title in the IBF. Supposedly an easy win for him. This is a belt that Canelo said “go and get.” If GGG wins the belt and Canelo doesn’t honor it, then that’s a question about not giving him a fight.

    GGG should be focused on the IBF not Canelo Alvarez. There was never an industry narrative for 2019 Canelo vs GGG anyways. Industry backed the idea for Undisputed but even that fight wasn’t approved. How all of sudden are fans, not industry, concerned over September when GGG was never that option nor in a contract to begin with.

    You won’t find any industry person saying that Canelo is ducking GGG when they’re trying to make the Kovalev fight.

    If anything it creates a dialogue that GGG should be seeking alternative challenges as well. That’s what Canelo haters don’t want to happen. Isn’t that obvious?

    Pascal just beating a younger Browne and fans can’t wait until 2020 for more Canelo GGG news?

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    • icha
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      #3
      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
      It’s been mentioned here how Canelo Alvarez is the most privileged fighter in boxing history.

      He was given a belt at a record breaking age for fighting Matthew Hatton, he’s gotten four gift decisions, he’s no longer required to fight WBC mandatories, he isn’t being required to give the former unified middleweight champion a rematch, etc. etc.

      Let’s ad “he doesn’t like GGG so he doesn’t have to fight him” to the list of spoiled brat $h!t he does.

      I have never, in my history of watching boxing, heard “he doesn’t like the guy” as an excuse for a fight not happening.

      Never. Not once.

      I’ve heard the opposite. They’re such good friends they won’t find. But never that they won’t fight because they hate each other too much.

      In fact, that’s usually the reason the fight sells. I feel like I hear the bad blood thing in every fight promotion but NEVER as a reason the fight won’t happen.

      Here’s a list off the top of my head of fighters would fought when they hated each other. If anyone wants to add, or point out a time where two fighters hated each other so much they didn’t fight, it would be appreciated.

      Mike Tyson bit Lennox Lewis in the leg during a press conference and stated he would eat his children. Lewis said he would **** Mike Tyson’s sister. They fought.

      Fernando Vargas and Oscar De La Hoya hated each other way more than GGG and Canelo do. They fought.

      Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera hated each other. They fought three times.

      Stanley Ketchel and Billy Papke hated each other. They fought four times.

      Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier hated each other so much that Frazier continued to say terrible things about Ali even when he was clearly suffering from Parkinson’s disease. They fought three times.

      Wladimir Klitschko clearly hated Tyson Fury during the lead up to their fight. They fought.

      Roy Jones and Antonio Tarver Hayes each other yet fought three times

      Ricardo Mayorga called Oscar De La Hoya a b***h and insulted his wife. They fought.

      Fernando Vargas and Ross Thompson got into a fight at a press conference and ended up swinging at each other. They fought.

      Miguel Cotto fought a rematch with Antonio Margarito after suspecting Margarito put plaster in his gloves during the first fight.
      did you ever heard canelo said " im not fighting ggg next cuz i dont like him " ???
      canelo clearly said " let him get a title, fight a champion then we can met " , but ggg did not cared, and fought bum rolls instead...
      we could be having canelo-ggg for undisputed next month, but ggg rejected andrade and fought rolls...
      you might not think is fair, but thats the way it is...
      and dont forget that canelo already showed his middle finger to much bigger stars than ggg(floyd, cotto), so ggg ignoring canelos request and not expecting a reaction from canelo was just silly...

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      • NearHypnos
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        #4
        They already fought and Canelo beat him in a close fight the last fight. Canelo has nothing to gain..

        “Oh GGG was already super old. Even older than when they first fought.” Etc etc.

        People need to let it go. He lost. He’ll get a shot again if Canelo feels like giving it to him.

        GGG talked the s hit and Canelo beat him and he’s now treating him like a bitter ex girlfriend. What didnyou expect? He took his 0, his aura, his belts, his streak, and he did it by coming forward. I love GGG but he can stomp his feet all he wants but Canelo sees him as a step back which he kind of is. The mystique is gone.

        I hope they fight again and think they will but as a fan of both fighters, it’s kind of amusing to see Canelo treating him like someone he hit and quit.

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          #5
          Originally posted by 12thRd
          More importantly GGG is “lawyering up” because DAZN is in shambles? GGG is about to fight for a World Title in the IBF. Supposedly an easy win for him. This is a belt that Canelo said “go and get.” If GGG wins the belt and Canelo doesn’t honor it, then that’s a question about not giving him a fight.

          GGG should be focused on the IBF not Canelo Alvarez. There was never an industry narrative for 2019 Canelo vs GGG anyways. Industry backed the idea for Undisputed but even that fight wasn’t approved. How all of sudden are fans, not industry, concerned over September when GGG was never that option nor in a contract to begin with.

          You won’t find any industry person saying that Canelo is ducking GGG when they’re trying to make the Kovalev fight.

          If anything it creates a dialogue that GGG should be seeking alternative challenges as well. That’s what Canelo haters don’t want to happen. Isn’t that obvious?

          Pascal just beating a younger Browne and fans can’t wait until 2020 for more Canelo GGG news?
          GGG is doing exactly what he should do. He is training hard to try to win a world middleweight title that Canelo has nothing to do with. Unlike what haters say he has never begged for a third fight. When aske about a third fight he just says he is ready for it any time Canelo is. GGG knows Canelo won't ever risk a third fight belt or no belt. GGG has moved on. He gets his 100 million bucks for 6 fights without Canelo and he doesn't need Canelo. History will remember one guy wanted the third fight and one guy did not.

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            #6
            Originally posted by icha
            did you ever heard canelo said " im not fighting ggg next cuz i dont like him " ???
            canelo clearly said " let him get a title, fight a champion then we can met " , but ggg did not cared, and fought bum rolls instead...
            we could be having canelo-ggg for undisputed next month, but ggg rejected andrade and fought rolls...
            you might not think is fair, but thats the way it is...
            and dont forget that canelo already showed his middle finger to much bigger stars than ggg(floyd, cotto), so ggg ignoring canelos request and not expecting a reaction from canelo was just silly...
            What belt did Canelo have when Golovkin gave him a rematch?

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            • boliodogs
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              #7
              Originally posted by icha
              did you ever heard canelo said " im not fighting ggg next cuz i dont like him " ???
              canelo clearly said " let him get a title, fight a champion then we can met " , but ggg did not cared, and fought bum rolls instead...
              we could be having canelo-ggg for undisputed next month, but ggg rejected andrade and fought rolls...
              you might not think is fair, but thats the way it is...
              and dont forget that canelo already showed his middle finger to much bigger stars than ggg(floyd, cotto), so ggg ignoring canelos request and not expecting a reaction from canelo was just silly...
              First Canelo told GGG to get a belt after he already fought Rolls not before he fought Rolls so you are lying for your beloved Mr. perfect man Canelo. Second GGG will more than likely become a world champion on October 5th and if you think Canelo will suddenly fight GGG because he is a champion again you are really ******. Canelo would not have fought GGG if GGG had KOed Andrade instead of Rolls. Canelo won't ever fight GGG because he is afraid he will lose a third fight and all the other reasons are just lies, BS and excuses.

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              • tokon
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                #8
                Originally posted by NearHypnos
                They already fought and Canelo beat him in a close fight the last fight. Canelo has nothing to gain..

                “Oh GGG was already super old. Even older than when they first fought.” Etc etc.

                People need to let it go. He lost. He’ll get a shot again if Canelo feels like giving it to him.

                GGG talked the s hit and Canelo beat him and he’s now treating him like a bitter ex girlfriend. What didnyou expect? He took his 0, his aura, his belts, his streak, and he did it by coming forward. I love GGG but he can stomp his feet all he wants but Canelo sees him as a step back which he kind of is. The mystique is gone.

                I hope they fight again and think they will but as a fan of both fighters, it’s kind of amusing to see Canelo treating him like someone he hit and quit.

                Not much more to to this hahaha.

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                • icha
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by _Maxi
                  What belt did Canelo have when Golovkin gave him a rematch?
                  none, but canelo brought much more to the table than just a belt, ggg doesnt bring as much as canelo and you know it... there is a reason ggg gave up a belt (ibf) or undisputed status(BJS fight) only to fight canelo who as you said had no belts, wonder why ???

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                  • icha
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    First Canelo told GGG to get a belt after he already fought Rolls not before he fought Rolls so you are lying for your beloved Mr. perfect man Canelo. Second GGG will more than likely become a world champion on October 5th and if you think Canelo will suddenly fight GGG because he is a champion again you are really ******. Canelo would not have fought GGG if GGG had KOed Andrade instead of Rolls. Canelo won't ever fight GGG because he is afraid he will lose a third fight and all the other reasons are just lies, BS and excuses.
                    how many times do i have to correct you dumb ass ???
                    watch this video from april 9
                    , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCAb2PKLO4w

                    https://*********.com/canelo-if-golo...-a-third/43302

                    “As a team, we have a goal,” said Canelo, who plans to add the IBF belt to his collection on May 4 in Las Vegas. “The objective of this year so to win all the belts. If Golovkin has a belt, then yes. Why not? We’ve given the fans two beautiful, great fights. Why not a third?”

                    April 9....

                    who is lying ???
                    Last edited by icha; 08-08-2019, 12:58 PM.

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