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  • Bronx2245
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    #31
    Originally posted by alexjust
    And Pacman for even longer, is this a criterion of P4P? I would say achieving a load within a short period of time should move the needle towards Loma rather than Canelo. I'm sure Canelo is somewhere within top 10 P4P, but I'm not convinced its the top 2.
    You have never seen Canelo decapitated like JMM did Pacquiao! Longevity separates the great, from the greatest! Loma needs a counterpart like JMM, like GGG! Pacquiao and Canelo lost to Mayweather! Loma lost to Salido! There are levels to this! I actually think Loma can take a giant leap forward, if he would agree to fight Pacquiao @ 140!

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    • vitali1999
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      #32
      Originally posted by 1hourRun
      Washed Micheal Spinks, old-man Larry Holmes, going the distance with Hype-job Tony Tucker, these are considered Hype-Tyson best wins -- but I think the gifted lineal cruiserweight Alfonzo Ratliff is up there in the top 3 on Mike's resume, considering he was closer to his prime.
      Undefeated 6'5 Tucker, don't forget the 6'5 undefeated 84 Olympic gold medalist super heavyweight champion and the number one ranked contender in October of 87, Tyrell Biggs. Hype job that bone head.

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        #33
        For sure. I feel like he should be the favorite based on how the fight went down.

        I'm waiting to see where its scheduled at before I make a bet doe. If its in the UK I think the refs there are gonna protect Joshua a lil more & make it a harder fight to win for Ruiz which could decide the fight Joshua's way.

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        • vitali1999
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          #34
          Originally posted by iamboxing
          I hope AJ doesn't read that. His confidence is already in the gutter.
          As it should be when you are build the way he is and you get knocked all around the ring like a rag doll by a short, fat little Mexican that looks like he just left a BBQ at the park with his vato homies. 😅

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          • 1hourRun
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            #35
            Originally posted by NachoMan
            Why is Mike Tyson, in your screwy mind, morally obligated to support American fighters only? Why would Mike Tyson be jealous of contemporary welterweights?? Does their success diminish his legacy somehow?? There are a million reasons not to like Floyd Mayweather; both personality reasons and the way he fought. Floyd was great, but he was also the best managed fighter in the history of the game. Mike Tyson has made no secret about the types of fighters he admires (Dempsey, Greb, Duran, etc.), so it's logical to assume that Mike doesn't get excited about defense-first fighters. He's among the majority of fight fans in that regard. He also may not appreciate Floyd's fake, insecure personality. Plenty of people would agree that Floyd is as phony as they come, whereas Mike Tyson showed nothing but his unfiltered true self (probably too much of it). Based on the little that I know of each of those guys, I wouldn't expect them to get along at all. With regard to the rest, unless they are paying Mike to promote their names, he can think and say whatever the hell he wants about them.
            You speak as if Mike is a moral rational human being, he is a convicted rapist you know? Dont tell you believe this sociopaths lies?

            You talk about the aggressive type that Hype-Tyson likes, but Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder is the most devastating puncher in the history of the HW division, again this does not make sense.

            Originally posted by Tatabanya
            Someone like Razor Ruddock, who Tyson beat twice while already past his prime, would have probably knocked Wilder out cold.

            I don't want to defend Tyson at all costs, mind you. But do you realize that Ortiz almost knocked out Wilder, and Fury toyed with him for the large part of their fight?


            Tyson had one point deducted in the 4th, 9th, and 10th rounds for fouls. Hype-Tyson should have another L after getting sparked by Douglas! Like I always said Hype-Tyson always folded when the going gets tough!

            Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder would of came from behind and iced Razor Ruddock like Luis Ortiz, no excuses.

            Originally posted by Walexhris
            Lol
            I doubt you were ever a fan, there's that 5℅ chance though
            By the way a case can be made that canelo's ped usage wasn't intentional.....a true fan would be willing to give him the benefit of doubt
            By the way either canelo's in my opinion has a better resume than Loma or Crawford for now
            If Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder EVER gets popped for a PED, I promise you, I will no longer support Wilder. I know it hurts some of you insecure Canelo fans that he indeed lost fans, thats not our fault.
            Originally posted by vitali1999
            Undefeated 6'5 Tucker, don't forget the 6'5 undefeated 84 Olympic gold medalist super heavyweight champion and the number one ranked contender in October of 87, Tyrell Biggs. Hype job that bone head.
            Does size increase your caliber as a opponent? Tony Tucker is the Charles Martin in Tyson's career, to Tuckers credit however he did do what Hype-Tyson couldn't -- beat Buster Douglas for the vacant IBF.

            You talk about Olympic gold, did you know that Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder destroyed UK gold medalist a prime Audley Harrison? Same thing will happen to another Olympic Gold medalist, Hype-Tyson looking meat-head Anthony Joshua.

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            • vitali1999
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              #36
              Originally posted by 1hourRun
              You speak as if Mike is a moral rational human being, he is a convicted rapist you know? Dont tell you believe this sociopaths lies?

              You talk about the aggressive type that Hype-Tyson likes, but Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder is the most devastating puncher in the history of the HW division, again this does not make sense.




              Tyson had one point deducted in the 4th, 9th, and 10th rounds for fouls. Hype-Tyson should have another L after getting sparked by Douglas! Like I always said Hype-Tyson always folded when the going gets tough!

              Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder would of came from behind and iced Razor Ruddock like Luis Ortiz, no excuses.


              If Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder EVER gets popped for a PED, I promise you, I will no longer support Wilder. I know it hurts some of you insecure Canelo fans that he indeed lost fans, thats not our fault.

              Does size increase your caliber as a opponent? Tony Tucker is the Charles Martin in Tyson's career, to Tuckers credit however he did do what Hype-Tyson couldn't -- beat Buster Douglas for the vacant IBF.

              You talk about Olympic gold, did you know that Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder destroyed UK gold medalist a prime Audley Harrison? Same thing will happen to another Olympic Gold medalist, Hype-Tyson looking meat-head Anthony Joshua.
              You are a delusional one aren't you. Audley Harrison was not in his prime when Wilder KO'd him. Hell the guy never had a prime. Biggs and Tucker were both undefeated. Tyson was in his prime when he fought Douglas but he was drinking, smoking and f_cking all the weeks leading up to the fight. His body looked loose, no way in hell he was properly trained for Douglas. And Douglas looked better that night than he ever looked. Get your head checked Sonny boy

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                #37
                Originally posted by Breno G
                I highly doubt Ruiz will beat AJ again. Even if he does, Tyson or Wilder will kill him.

                A loss to Ruiz again will prove AJ was a hype job, but won't prove Ruiz is as good as the other top level HWs.
                AJ IS a hype job.

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                  #38
                  I wonder if Tyson thinks Buster would have beaten him again...........

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                  • alexjust
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    You have never seen Canelo decapitated like JMM did Pacquiao! Longevity separates the great, from the greatest! Loma needs a counterpart like JMM, like GGG! Pacquiao and Canelo lost to Mayweather! Loma lost to Salido! There are levels to this! I actually think Loma can take a giant leap forward, if he would agree to fight Pacquiao @ 140!
                    I wouldn't see too much into Salido fight. Dirty fight, highly questionable decision. There is a reason Salido is not on p4p list. And it's not because Loma has the PR machine when Salido doesn't, he is simply not on Lomasl's level even if he won on paper.

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                    • Tatabanya
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by vitali1999
                      You are a delusional one aren't you. Audley Harrison was not in his prime when Wilder KO'd him. Hell the guy never had a prime. Biggs and Tucker were both undefeated. Tyson was in his prime when he fought Douglas but he was drinking, smoking and f_cking all the weeks leading up to the fight. His body looked loose, no way in hell he was properly trained for Douglas. And Douglas looked better that night than he ever looked. Get your head checked Sonny boy
                      Man, I myself wasted ten seconds of my precious time to reply to the guy. We all must have realized by now that he's 14 or so.

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