Why the fk are the likes of Gatti, and ray boom boom in the HOF??? and not the Prince

[Blue54]

The Gatti is only because he was a fan favorite and early death he still fun to watch thoe,
Macini is only because he pretty much had one of the most important fights in the sports history for the wrong reason of course.

But both did bring excitement to boxing and were world champs ��*♂️

And yes Hamed has been in for a while now.

[dukesville]

The Gatti is only because he was a fan favorite and early death he still fun to watch thoe,
Macini is only because he pretty much had one of the most important fights in the sports history for the wrong reason of course.

And yes Hamed has been in for a while now.

Yea but thats not a qualification for Gatti to be there or else Corrales should be there as well.

[New England]

Yea but thats not a qualification for Gatti to be there or else Corrales should be there as well.

i don't want to disrespect chico corrales, but they would go in for very different reasons. arturo is arguably the most exciting fighter of all time. historians all put him in the conversation. he was the perfect storm of vulnerability, skill, and power. that is why we watch the sport, ultimately, to be entertained. gatti connected with the writers more and they voted him in. you use your heart, too, you know. that's the end of it, you'll never get a computer voting people into the hall of fame, and gatti connected with the writers.

[dukesville]

i don't want to disrespect chico corrales, but they would go in for very different reasons. arturo is arguably the most exciting fighter of all time. historians all put him in the conversation. he was the perfect storm of vulnerability, skill, and power. that is why we watch the sport, ultimately, to be entertained. gatti connected with the writers more and they voted him in. you use your heart, too, you know. that's the end of it, you'll never get a computer voting people into the hall of fame, and gatti connected with the writers.

Yea well thats an opinion and thats the point, it should be based on accomplishments not opinions. I like watching Gatti but equally Corrales , Kirkland, Margarito, Pavlik ect

[Larry the boss]

He is in the hall of fame

[RuleOfTheSpear]

Hamed is in. He shouldn’t be though.

These are the hall of famers who have no business IMO

Rid**** Bowe
Ray Mancini
Bobby Chacon
Barry McGuigan
Naseem Hamed
Ingemar Johansson
Pipino Cuevas
Carlos Palamino
Vitali Klitschko
Julian Jackson
Buddy McGirt
Donald Curry
Arturo Gatti
Rocky Graziano
Daniel Zaragoza
Max Schmeling
Georges Carpentier
Tony DeMarco
Jack Sharkey
Winky Wright
Randolph Turpin

Not saying they are bad. Some had awesome primes, a great win or two, big characters etc; but there should be a standard and a cut off. These guys aren’t “great”.

They should probably separate "great fights" from "great fighters".

You can have one or two great fight(s) but that doesn't make you a great fighter

[New England]

Yea well thats an opinion and thats the point, it should be based on accomplishments not opinions. I like watching Gatti but equally Corrales , Kirkland, Margarito, Pavlik ect

how is stacking up accomplishments and assigning them value not an opinion? this is not a quantitative study! it is inherently subjective! X amount of fights, x amount of wins, etc, these are not standards and i assure you that you'll find it if you look in canastota!


what matters is who you beat, when, how, and what impact did it have. the thing is called the hall of fame FFS! and if you go there you'll find people totally willing to discuss gatti's enshrinement and how he's different from the other "greater" fighters. and also why he was more exciting!


i'm sorry, but if you think james kirkland's career is on the same level as gatti's for his impact on the fanbase and his endearing style you missed the bus, bro! you just flat out don't get it, and that's fine.

[xxlefthookxx]

There are no set qualifications for the IBHOF

Yea but thats not a qualification for Gatti to be there or else Corrales should be there as well.

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Hate to say it, but it is a simple vote. Period. Some voters may have criteria they use, but it is not universal. Kinda of like judging a bout. Gatti and Mancini, due to their charisma, represented what was beloved about the sport. I think they are justly in the HOF. They are two fighters who would be discussed when talking about the history of boxing. Julian Jackson is rightfully in. When you talk about potentially the hardest puncher p4p ever, throw in he's a 2-division titlist with a win over the highly respected Terry Norris, he deserves a spot. There are many who are 'good' enough to be in, but with only 3 or 5 allowed in per year, it is too easy to be left behind if you do not make it on the first ballot. Benn, Eubank for example.

[Thraxox]

Hamed is in. He shouldn’t be though.

These are the hall of famers who have no business IMO

Rid**** Bowe
Ray Mancini
Bobby Chacon
Barry McGuigan
Naseem Hamed
Ingemar Johansson
Pipino Cuevas
Carlos Palamino
Vitali Klitschko
Julian Jackson
Buddy McGirt
Donald Curry
Arturo Gatti
Rocky Graziano
Daniel Zaragoza
Max Schmeling
Georges Carpentier
Tony DeMarco
Jack Sharkey
Winky Wright
Randolph Turpin

Not saying they are bad. Some had awesome primes, a great win or two, big characters etc; but there should be a standard and a cut off. These guys aren’t “great”.

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[dukesville]

how is stacking up accomplishments and assigning them value not an opinion? this is not a quantitative study! it is inherently subjective! X amount of fights, x amount of wins, etc, these are not standards and i assure you that you'll find it if you look in canastota!


what matters is who you beat, when, how, and what impact did it have. the thing is called the hall of fame FFS! and if you go there you'll find people totally willing to discuss gatti's enshrinement and how he's different from the other "greater" fighters. and also why he was more exciting!


i'm sorry, but if you think james kirkland's career is on the same level as gatti's for his impact on the fanbase and his endearing style you missed the bus, bro! you just flat out don't get it, and that's fine.

Calm down I was comparing Kirkland to Gatti in terms of exciting fights not meaningful fights or wins but I will compare Corrales though. If you can put Gatti, Corrales should be in it too, so should fighters like Margarito, Hatton, jermain Taylor, and many many more. Its not reserved for elite fighters anymore. And if you can't tell the difference from Gatti to someone like James Tony then I don't know what to tell you.