Comments Thread For: Joshua: I Went To U.S. On My Own Back, Would Love Ruiz In Cardiff

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  • bronx7
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    #41
    What’s everyone guessing Ruiz gets for the rematch ? Straight pay no PPV upside it’s on DAZN. If around $5 for first one what do you think? 15? 20? Maybe max cap in rematch clause

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    • Straightener
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      #42
      Originally posted by bronx7
      What’s everyone guessing Ruiz gets for the rematch ? Straight pay no PPV upside it’s on DAZN. If around $5 for first one what do you think? 15? 20? Maybe max cap in rematch clause
      I can see this ending up it court.... do fight fans seriously think Mexico is the answer to this mess. Mexico is the corruption capital of the world

      If Ruiz was to take the fight in Cardiff I’m sure they would give him more money for it but who knows

      Hopefully Ruiz takes the fight and the L like a man and the heavyweight big three can fight each other

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      • sofreshhh
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        #43
        The fight will be in the US guys don't let these cowards fool. There is no language in the contract that says AJ gets to choose the location so unless they are willing to give Ruiz his 50 million the fight will be stateside.

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        • alexjust
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          #44
          Originally posted by landotter
          A rematch clause covers exactly one item: Ruiz CANNOT fight anyone else before a rematch with Joshua if it is invoked. Seriously, do you think after working out all money and fight details in the first, they sit around and hammer out all the details of a fight that may not be needed? Why do you think the venue is up in the air? If Joshua and his team would have pushed for any one thing, it would have been that a rematch would be in England. But it is not.

          The date, place, judges, the ref, who gets first promotion rights, the TV broadcasting rights... and yes the money are ALL being worked out.

          Ruiz has to give Joshua a rematch. Period. He is obligated. Everything else is a blank slate.
          Wow. Just wow. I'm in awe at the level of self-confidence and ignorance.

          But let's break it down:

          Point one (try to keep up).
          I have not read the contract signed between AJ and Ruiz. Did you? If no, then we are both speculating. Its now a question of who is more likely to be correct in assumptions.

          Point two. Your position of "Everything else is a blank slate" is contradicted by what Eddie has been saying for a long time. Consistently. You don't trust Eddie? Fine. Let's look at this from a common sense perspective. Which brings us to...

          Point three. Imagine you are a champ, one of the biggest stars in boxing globally. Earning almost the highest per fight. Having almost all the belts. You give voluneteer defence. You add a rematch clause, which only roughly says: "opponent X must fight AJ within X period of time if AJ loses to opponent X and invokes this rematch clause within X days from the date of loss, subject to contract between opponent X and AJ". This future contract would then detail the venue, split, timing, gloves, entrance order and so on. Is this how you would structure this deal? Solid work. I'd fire you on the spot for that.

          By structuring the rematch clause this way you take all your leverage and hand it over to your opponent. Your opponent would then be able to throw in wrench after wrench in "good faith negotiations" of the that rematch contract. You want venue in the UK? But I want in the US. And look, DAZN also supports this and puts equal amount of money. Or maybe Mexico? Reasonable? Reasonable. You want in December? Why wait? I want in October. You want 60-40 split? But I'm the champion and want 50-50 split. Oh, you don't like the terms...hm, it seems like we failed to come to terms then, I'm willing to honor my rematch obligation, of course, but since we've reserved the terms for future negotiations, what can we do if you don't accept my reasonable demands? I guess the fight is off.

          As long as he negotiates in good faith (which requirement is hard not to satisfy), he can find a million and one ways to tank the rematch.

          Do you really think that after decades of negotiations of rematch clauses these things (probably down to the entrance order and songs) are not boilerplate??

          Wake up.
          Last edited by alexjust; 08-06-2019, 01:17 PM.

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          • pugil1st
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            #45
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            It wouldnt surprise me. Who tested Ruiz? VADA?
            That's pretty bad sportsmanship. Your guy loses and all of a sudden the other guy is a cheater. When I see stuff like this it makes me think that you didn't understand what you were watching. Real fans of the sport saw the hand speed, traps and the heart to exchange after taking a good shot.

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #46
              Let me correct Anthony Joshua.

              He came to the US and got put on his back.

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              • P4P Forever
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                #47
                Originally posted by Straightener
                I can see this ending up it court.... do fight fans seriously think Mexico is the answer to this mess. Mexico is the corruption capital of the world

                If Ruiz was to take the fight in Cardiff I’m sure they would give him more money for it but who knows

                Hopefully Ruiz takes the fight and the L like a man and the heavyweight big three can fight each other
                You crazier then Bronx 7

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                • P4P Forever
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Bum squad
                  Ruiz was incredibly lucky to even get a shot as a late replacement. AJ gave him his big shot that he was highly unlikely to ever get; and fair play he took it with both hands and won the match but i'm now getting fed up of the 'i'm calling the shots now'. no you aren't. Show some gratitude, you signed an agreement for an imediate rematch. Win that then YOU get to call the shots.

                  just bloody announce the fight anyway it's getting tedious now.
                  You sound like a want to be lawyer for AJ. You doing a commercial. He signed the agreement and no two agreements are a like. Go **** your head in a window

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                  • P4P Forever
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                    Forget it AJ, Yanks dont like to come to the UK or anywhere else unless they really have to cuz they have to leave their cheating at the check in desk at the airport. Also im now sure they are scared to get anywhere near UKAD cuz UKAD will get em.

                    They looking to piss you about until the fight dont happen. They not confident, they knocked you all over the ring and knocked you senseless and yet they still scared, to this day.

                    The crying about Whyte and this drugs thing is just a smoke screen, they didnt want to come over before that, You go over to the States or Mexico they will then demand it be shown on Showtime OR NO FIGHT. Its all the same crap read from the PBC duck script.
                    Can you say SALTYYYYYYY!!!
                    That KO was so powerful ,had a major impact on fans as well, as you can see, they going crazy.

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                    • vitali1999
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                      #50
                      Kinda agree with Joshua. Rematch should be in U.K. If it is Joshua wins, then the third fight can be in old Mexico. Sounds like this is turning into a Fury vs Klitschko rematch where it took 8 months to get a date then another 8 for injury and cocain

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