Why is Canelo going through all of this not to fight GGG

[aboutfkntime]

Lmfao. Bro. Its pretty easy to claim to bookmark **** and then only come back when you're right. If you're wrong you'll disappear and pretend like nothing happened.

How many or you claimed Canelo was going to fight Kovalev and said the same exact ****? Hmmm?

Mr. I used the word rubbish but I'm not from the UK. Mr. I challenged you to a fight and your pathetic ***** ass declined because you said you were from the UK.

did you even read this part of what I wrote? So pathetic you're to create an argument out of nothing you ****** old man.

what sort of a fkn idiot are you ???

1) only a 12yo f@ggot would pretend to fight someone over the internet

2) link, you 12yo f@ggot..... because that NEVER happened

3) I am not from the UK, you muppet

4) if you ever came near me, I would drop you on your 12yo f@ggot head LMAO

link me to that lie, or crawl away in silence

[aboutfkntime]

does this explain why Canelo will not fight Golovkin..... ?

Canelo Alvarez is unhappy with his promotional outfit and its semi-leader/figurehead, Oscar De La Hoya. That much you can read anywhere. But here are some reasons -- all of which I shared with Golden Boy (seeking its version of events) and none of which was rebutted:

Canelo told Oscar during negotiations last year not to promise DAZN a third fight with Golovkin -- not because Canelo feared the fight but because he felt he won the second in straightforward fashion and he sincerely disliked the idea of helping out Golovkin financially (that antipathy is real).

Yet Oscar promised DAZN a third Canelo-GGG go-round anyway -- which has hurt a bunch of people: It led to DAZN signing GGG by guaranteeing him a shot at Canelo they cannot deliver presently. DAZN is in breach of the GGG contract as as result.

And GGG's lawyers have now sent DAZN a letter about the violation, demanding a title fight, so their guy has a belt to dangle before Canelo in 2020.

The DAZN c-suite desperately wants for the boxing lifer Len Blavatnik never deigned to hire. Now, DAZN's North American survival "depends on how rugged a stomach that Len Blavatnik guy has," according to one boxing exec.

Although it should be said in defense of the aforementioned, that everyone who works in boxing is compromised one way or another. That's the nature of the game. And the consensus view on Canelo is that he's become more and more peevish -- and acerbic -- with each earned dollar.

So maybe the names here of persons and corporations alike are interchangeable. Boxing was dead on arrival. The Marquess of Queensberry was a zombie.

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The Case of Canelo vs the Golden Boy
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Canelo Alvarez is unhappy with his promotional outfit and its semi-leader/figurehead, Oscar De La Hoya. That much you can read anywhere. But here are some reasons -- all of which I shared with Golden Boy (seeking its version of events) and none of which was rebutted:

Canelo told Oscar during negotiations last year not to promise DAZN a third fight with Golovkin -- not because Canelo feared the fight but because he felt he won the second in straightforward fashion and he sincerely disliked the idea of helping out Golovkin financially (that antipathy is real).

Yet Oscar promised DAZN a third Canelo-GGG go-round anyway -- which has hurt a bunch of people: It led to DAZN signing GGG by guaranteeing him a shot at Canelo they cannot deliver presently. DAZN is in breach of the GGG contract as as result.

And GGG's lawyers have now sent DAZN a letter about the violation, demanding a title fight, so their guy has a belt to dangle before Canelo in 2020.

The DAZN c-suite desperately wants for the boxing lifer Len Blavatnik never deigned to hire. Now, DAZN's North American survival "depends on how rugged a stomach that Len Blavatnik guy has," according to one boxing exec.

Although it should be said in defense of the aforementioned, that everyone who works in boxing is compromised one way or another. That's the nature of the game. And the consensus view on Canelo is that he's become more and more peevish -- and acerbic -- with each earned dollar.

So maybe the names here of persons and corporations alike are interchangeable. Boxing was dead on arrival. The Marquess of Queensberry was a zombie.

Canelo is also upset Oscar receives his own perks as part of Canelo's $350 million DAZN contract -- part of the paycheck Canelo generates is used to compensate other fighters on Golden Boy cards. Canelo can't see why that money shouldn't go to the development of his own business (like a subsidiary promotional outfit in his name). After all, nobody has made money for Golden Boy -- been a boxer in the black instead of red -- besides Canelo for years.

Canelo has secured the services of an independent lawyer -- either to re-negotiate his Golden Boy deal or to ensure it's properly enforced or to cut a deal in which Canelo buys out the remainder of the contract.

The lawyer might wind up doing all three and in that order. Someone ball-parked a buyout figure to me of $20-30 million -- but only if Canelo's lawyer can show Golden Boy has been acting in bad faith or not living up to its side of the deal. And the figures obviously could vary greatly based on fight outcomes (or, heaven forfend, injury).

Sadly, this is where Oscar's history of substance abuse has legal implication. I really respect the way Oscar has treated me personally. And addiction is a disease. But Canelo was reportedly embarrassed by a few instances in which Oscar was a no show at his pressers, ostensibly because Oscar was impaired or hung-over. If it can be proven he was indeed absent for that reason, Canelo will get to pay far less to buy out his deal -- because it portends greater difficulty for Oscar should the case be litigated.

Canelo has made overtures, through intermediaries, to two well-known promoters -- which efforts were likely designed and executed with sufficient subtlety so as to skirt tortious interference.

An executive with one promoter, after I texted him about the outreach, replied, "No idea about that." Maybe the outreach was so subtle those on the other end didn't even know they were being -- quietly but desperately -- sought (#InsidetheRopesInception).

Meanwhile, how genuine was Canelo in recent days in accusing Golden Boy matchmaker Robert Diaz of leaving him in the dark about negotiations involving IBF mandatory challenger Sergiy Derevyanchenko?

The jury is out -- but the last couple months in Robert Diaz's life have been odd: The Golden Boy matchmaker has had to take on more executive tasks, including the act of shooing Sergiy with step-aside money so Canelo could face a brand-name opponent (DAZN didn't want Sergiy either -- they preferred light-heavyweight Sergey Kovalev, who didn't receive a satisfactory offer from Golden Boy until a day after the deadline for him to withdraw from his upcoming Aug. 24 bout in Russia -- in the wonderfully-named "Traktor Sport Palace").

A pattern emerges:

According to one source, Golden Boy ignored all calls and emails from the IBF and from Sergiy's representatives for two whole months and only got back in touch just before an IBF-mandated deadline, in order to ask for the deadline to be pushed off (which it was).

Had Diaz picked up the phone, perhaps the step-aside fees would've been accepted and the IBF belt retained.

But the thing that may have pissed off Canelo the most here: Robert Diaz, in written correspondence, allegedly said Canelo would give up his IBF belt if a deal weren't made by a certain time. Even before the IBF stripped Canelo, his own representative volunteered the belt's return.

Why? And with Canelo's permission? And why was this being handled by the matchmaker -- why wasn't Canelo working through either CEO Eric Gomez or founding Golden Boy Oscar De La Hoya? Was there a previous rift about which we don't know?

And back to the months of radio silence:

I've ghosted some people I met on OkCupid but only permanently -- never for a full month only to return meekly and with minor money -- Diaz offered Sergiy less than 14 percent of the pot -- like I was some John dismissive of Elizabeth Taylor and then in need of her, "Butterfield 8"-style.
Oscar, Eric and Robert are now making millions on his bouts regardless of their efforts. The huge, already-locked-in Blavatnik dough has left an Odebrecht aftertaste on Canelo's tongue. Like, wait -- what are they presently doing to justify all that income?

DAZN comes back into play here:

By giving Daniel Jacobs $14 million to fight Canelo in May, John Skipper invited all the top middleweights under his banner (Demetrius Andrade, GGG, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, and, soon, Billy Joe Saunders) to demand impossible fees.

Blavatnik ain't gonna offer bread to 'em all (question, sincerely: What kinda bread do you think oligarchs prefer? All breads seem so plebeian. Do they just eschew sandwich-consumption altogether?).

Anyway: How is the Canelo-Oscar story resolved?

"Nothing is ****ing irreparable," a promoter told me. "I don't think the relationship will ever be the same, but it doesn't mean it will end."

personally, I FULLY understand why Canelo dislikes Bullshltkin

I don't really like Bullshltkin either




oh, that post is from Motorcity Cobra's thread.....

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=823516

[tokon]

because of all the rubbish that Golovkin talked immediately following the first fight..... because of all the rubbish that Golovkin talked when Canelo tested positive..... because of all the rubbish that Golovkin talked prior to the rematch... and because of all the rubbish that Golovkin talked after the rematch..... ?

I dunno, just a guess

Yes, because of all that, canelo is determined not to give Golovkin another career high payday. At least not until HE decides he's earned it; and beating Rolls doesn't cut it! Canelo has the power here and he's told golovkin to go get a title then come back to the table to beg!!

[R-Hand Southpaw]

what sort of a fkn idiot are you ???

1) only a 12yo f@ggot would pretend to fight someone over the internet

2) link, you 12yo f@ggot..... because that NEVER happened

3) I am not from the UK, you muppet

4) if you ever came near me, I would drop you on your 12yo f@ggot head LMAO

link me to that lie, or crawl away in silence

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797118

Of course you dont remember.

[TonyGe]

PM me, we can do this Mr. Traveler AND you can also break down this fight that you KNOW I'm right about THAT's why you don't want to break it down.

Fight 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZxwlgUrJBk

Lets' go round by round.

Would you please show some balls and post you analysis. You won't because
A. You don't want to go through the work involved.
B. You know fully well that you will have to adopt a defensive position from the **** storm of ridicule that will be heaped on you.
C. You know it's easier to attack and pick holes in an argument than defending every point in that argument.
Typical cherry picker mentality just like your idol Canelo.

[champion4ever]

Because he is a hen with no balls. You would think with all the money that DAZN has offered him, he would be willing to fight just about anyone. However, it is not the case, The man is a cowardly little bitch who is afraid of losing to Triple G by way of knockout.

[aboutfkntime]

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=797118

Of course you dont remember.

link me to where I..... 1) declined..... 2) said I was from the UK

"your pathetic ***** ass declined because you said you were from the UK."

like I said earlier..... you have talked a TON of rubbish over the last few months

just what we needed, another shlt-talking clown

[aboutfkntime]

Canelo is sticking to his guns

we will see what his lawyer digs up

hopefully we still get a fight this year, hopefully it is Andrade

the fighter who did not recently lose to Danny Jacobs

[R-Hand Southpaw]

link me to where I..... 1) declined..... 2) said I was from the UK



like I said earlier..... you have talked a TON of rubbish over the last few months

just what we needed, another shlt-talking clown

Does anyone here know who this guy is?

Aboutfkntime. Its about time you learn to keep your mouth shut because I'm calling you out and I want everyone to see it.

Long story short. This piece thinks I'm some guy named Lou. I dont even know who that guy is. You want to open your mouth and make false allegations and insults then I challenge you to grow some ****ing balls.

I'll verify who I am, but when you find out I'm not who you claim I want your account banned. You can come back under another alt.

If I'm lou I'll leave. I'll ban myself.

You're so ****ing confident take the bet!

I even offered you the same ****ing thing I offered your p ussy ass friend shadow and even he was smart enough to shut the **** up.

Box me. We can make an official thread and line up a fight down the road. We can wear head gear and big gloves. We can fight at any gym you want. I dont care if I have to fly to the UK. We can fight at any weight from 160-HW.

I want this recorded and put on here for EVERYONE TO SEE.

Put your ****ing money where you mouth is! We are both amateurs with no experience what the **** you afraid of BRO?

WHAT DO YOU WEIGH?

How many MONTHS you need to train? 6 months to get ready?

You want this April next year?!

I'm calling you out Aboutfkntime.

Let me ask you why my past self would suggest that you are from the UK?

The answer is because you told me so.

So let's play a game. When I suggest we box you claimed it was IMPOSSIBLE because I'm from the states and you are from the UK to which I said, idgaf, I'll convince my fiance to go to the UK just so I could kick you ass.

So either you lied because you're a f ucking coward. Or two, you're actually from the UK.

Which is it?

[Real King Kong]

Let me ask you why my past self would suggest that you are from the UK?

The answer is because you told me so.

So let's play a game. When I suggest we box you claimed it was IMPOSSIBLE because I'm from the states and you are from the UK to which I said, idgaf, I'll convince my fiance to go to the UK just so I could kick you ass.

So either you lied because you're a f ucking coward. Or two, you're actually from the UK.

Which is it?

I’ve seen him referred to as a sheep fcker multiple times...so he must be from either Scotland or New Zealand. Also, you are aware this guy is nearly a senior citizen, right? Not sure why you wanna actually go through with fighting someone over Internet forum bs, but that old man isn’t gonna fight lol.