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  • Blond Beast
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    #161
    Originally posted by andocom
    Just wish they would announce it already and get it over and done with, I don't care where it is I just want to see it.

    That being said, if Ruiz negotiated and signed the rematch clause giving Joshua choice of venue, he should fulfill his obligations, venue wouldn't have made a difference in the first and doubt it will in the rematch.

    It's going to be VADA tested wherever it is, if it's in the UK it will also be UKAD also in addition to VADA, who really gives a sh#t, just get it on.
    I hear where ur coming from with contracts being what they are. But is there even a limit to how many rematch clauses u can put? It really cheapens the win and the belts when u smash a guy and still have to do whatever he says. If u don’t sign the rematch clause u prolly don’t get the fight. The guy with the belts now has no stroke. The rematch bigger than first fight, but u don’t get to cash in on that. AJ makes more because he lost. Being the better man in the ring should cost the “A” side financially. I’m just trying to think of a way where winning should be worth the most regardless. Even as I write this I can’t pretend I have an answer. Theres A paradox somewhere. It’s all a mess, there’s so many sides to it all. Sorry for opening my mouth.

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    • MastaBlasta
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      #162
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Oh yeah, those were the days. Whats happened to the PBC and its protected fighters nowadays eh? Once they travelled and now they wont, now they rarely fight none PBC fighters even though theres plenty out ther calling them out.
      PBC boxers not worried about needing "protection', lol. But it's good to be smart in any profession. Boxers are smart enough to see that only matchroom fighters seem to get a consistent fair shake in UK bouts. No one runs to adventures in places where they stand a good chance of getting screwed over.

      UK boxing has made their own bed, no one else. If fighters don't wanna deal with it that's UK boxing's problem. Sometimes perception becomes reality. People get to make their own decisions. You can't deny it's a "cozy" environment for UK fighters.

      Make it cozy for everyone else. Stop whining like a child. "They don't wanna come over here doe". LoL!

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      • MastaBlasta
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        #163
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        Ruiz is looking for his way out. He has no intention to rematch Joshua, he will rather drop the belts.

        His dreams became true, he is world champion and a millionaire. It just seems to me he doesn`t care anymore.
        Sounds like a convenient conclusion to draw on your part, since you don't like his decision not to fight in the UK.

        Then again, maybe that's why he so successfully put AJ on his a$$, 'cause he "didn't care", LoL!

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        • MastaBlasta
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          #164
          Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
          Seems like I read somewhere the contract says Joshua/Hearn have rights to have the rematch at a venue of their choosing. Does anyone know if that's true?
          That's not true. hearn has said since right after the first fight that he would have work to do to get the fight in the UK. If the contract had spelled it out so literally that they (alone) get to decide, there would be no work to do.

          Lots of whiners keep posting what they WISH the contract said, along with a lot of mumbo-jumbo about whats "always" in a contract (and they have probably never negotiated one).

          Ruiz is refusing it because he knows he can refuse it. Both sides have to agree on the location.
          Last edited by MastaBlasta; 08-04-2019, 12:14 AM.

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          • guyver8
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            #165
            Originally posted by Rbjr77
            If Ruiz eats a jab in the UK the fight will be stopped via tko
            Is that what happened in the Brook vs Spence fight?

            Anyway, thank God no bad decisions or early stoppages have ever happened in the history of American boxing.. (sarcasm!)

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            • Jkp
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              #166
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              Joshuas my guy but he quit mentally in the end and it happens ,he didn't quit getting up multiple times though what people want to ignore is Ruiz's ability to take a punch was overlooked.

              In the end it doesn't matter Joshuas never been actually punched out of a match ,and he made more then a handful of mistakes.


              Ruiz is in for a tough night in the rematch ,I don't think its even in question ...Joshua should win ,Ruiz is not on his level ,he had his night but a repeat victory is more slim in a rematch.

              fight stopped short ? IMOP yes it was ,as a huge event make the fighters fight even if they are leabning back ,the fighter who was Joshua is talking to you ,either way,Ruiz is really in for a bad night next time.
              Ruiz is 10 times the fighter AJ will ever be. He already proved it.

              Amazing how to detached from reality you AJ fanboys are, even after getting proven wrong. You still ignore reality.

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              • DaNeutral.
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                #167
                Originally posted by MastaBlasta
                PBC boxers not worried about needing "protection', lol. But it's good to be smart in any profession. Boxers are smart enough to see that only matchroom fighters seem to get a consistent fair shake in UK bouts. No one runs to adventures in places where they stand a good chance of getting screwed over.

                UK boxing has made their own bed, no one else. If fighters don't wanna deal with it that's UK boxing's problem. Sometimes perception becomes reality. People get to make their own decisions. You can't deny it's a "cozy" environment for UK fighters.

                Make it cozy for everyone else. Stop whining like a child. "They don't wanna come over here doe". LoL!
                Damn, those stars and stripes tinted glasses you wearing are super nationalistic. You make is sound like you go to the UK and you will be screwed over every step of your time in the country, So stay in the States where everybody gets fair play and everything is whiter than white over there. American Boxing is the most drug riddled and corrupt place in the sport, always has been always will be. But your so American you cant see it, i dont think your living in the real world, your living in your Ameica is the greatest at everything all of the time world.

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                • Kris Silver
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  So AJ as the big star here giving Ruiz a chance in the US should get the advantage again by having the second fight in the US?

                  Hearn is just replying to the constant comments of Ruiz claiming the fight is happening in the US and nowhere else even though there is a contract here, but you think Hearn is the one being a pillock? Anything to say of the coward that is Andy Ruiz with him acting like a diva?
                  Nonsense. And I'm an AJ fan and occasional Hearn supporter.

                  Hearn's handled this like a mess. They didn't have a country stipulated in the rematch clause. So suck it up and be reasonable. Your guy lost.

                  He's going weeks after the fight I or we'll have a location and fight sorted within 3 days. That was weeks ago.

                  Both sides say US or, Ruiz rightly suggesting or Mexico, Hearn saying or UK.

                  The natural rematch location was the US. But gradually Hearn has stated the UK and that's what he's informing Ruiz. What a cheek. You want your belts back or not?

                  Hearn said AJ wasn't fussed. So yeh I stand by it all. Ruiz is a stand up guy and is being reasonable. There's just too many things with Hearn to constantly give him the benefit of the doubt and defend him now. Although I do thing team Wilder were playing games more than him but neither parties innocent in that one.

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                  • MDPopescu
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    But you called him soft and didn't pass comment on the coward who is crying about travelling in Ruiz. AJ has already travelled for the first fight so it's only fair the rematch happens in the UK. Robinson did likewise when he lost to Turpin in the UK for the first fight. Or are you going to claim Robinson was soft as well?
                    ... I called him "soft millennial" -- which he is...

                    ... But what SRR has to do with this?... (not to mention that you seem to know nothing about the SRR's "European tour" back in 1951 -- SRR had 7 fights in 6 countries in less than 2 months... with Turpin being his last fight in that tour... three months later SRR KOd Turpin in front of 60,000 fans in NY)...

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                    • andocom
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Kris Silver
                      Nonsense. And I'm an AJ fan and occasional Hearn supporter.

                      Hearn's handled this like a mess. They didn't have a country stipulated in the rematch clause. So suck it up and be reasonable. Your guy lost.

                      He's going weeks after the fight I or we'll have a location and fight sorted within 3 days. That was weeks ago.

                      Both sides say US or, Ruiz rightly suggesting or Mexico, Hearn saying or UK.

                      The natural rematch location was the US. But gradually Hearn has stated the UK and that's what he's informing Ruiz. What a cheek. You want your belts back or not?

                      Hearn said AJ wasn't fussed. So yeh I stand by it all. Ruiz is a stand up guy and is being reasonable. There's just too many things with Hearn to constantly give him the benefit of the doubt and defend him now. Although I do thing team Wilder were playing games more than him but neither parties innocent in that one.
                      Where are you getting this info from, they didn't have a location but they had who decides which was Joshua. The most likely tension is between Sky and Dazn as they both would like it in their market.

                      I'm actually starting to wonder if they aren't announcing the venue just to keep it in the headlines, add a bit of mystery.

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