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Max Kellerman: Manny Pacquiao has a case for the best pound-for-pound fighter ever
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Kellerman is a clown just like that idiot sephen a smith lol...I give pac respect he did a great job in his career but most of his fights were cherry picked by bob arum.
We all know every decent fighter he has faced he went to war with them, some he won some he lost..he never displayed "greatness" by winning a fight with proper boxing skills.
I can't give him respect for beating weight drained flop prank cherry picks..to name a few..de la hoya, cotto, margarito..and hatton was already done after floyd beat him, we all know floyd took his "soul".
And we've seen there was no "greatness" against marquez (a guy mayweather toyed with btw) ..even the win he got against marquez was questionable but marquez knocked him out to seal all the doubt.
So yea he did well, he gave us some good fights and respect for beating Thurman, but that man is no where to being great, only skilled boxers in the sport become greats.
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We are all very lucky that we witnessed the true lb4lb greatest of all time.
From flyweight upto jr middleweight
8 division champion
5 division lineal champion
3x foty
Fighter of the decade
Oldest welterweight champion
Wow just woooooow.
It's like a fictional achievements.
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Originally posted by ikigai View PostPac is pretty high up there but I would put him below Ali, Lennox Lewis, Sugar Ray leonard, Marvin Hagler, Bernard Hopkins.
I have Manny Pacquiao right under Bernard Hopkins.
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Originally posted by South Champion View PostOn Max on Boxing, Kellerman says Pacquiao's win over Keith Thurman added onto his many accomplishments makes him have a case to top the all time P4P list.
Two back to back Fighter of the Decade awards is one thing, but all time pound for pound fighter of all time is probably a bit of a stretch.
Longevity, accolades, resume... check.
I dont care if he doesn’t end up being the goat. He probably loses to the leonards and hearns of the world at welter. But what Im sure of is no one is more loved than Pacquiao. There is no other fighter that has inspired the world at the level that he reached.
Inspiring story, exciting fighter, still the people’s champ even at old age, the only asian that went H2H with an american superstar ppv numbers... and i don’t think there’d be another one. Fighter of the decade, oldest welterweight champ and the list goes on...
Floyd was hated most part of his career hiding, accused of ducking and getting pissed on interviews, while this dude has been having fun the entire time.
Haters can hate all they want, but Pac overachieved.. other than floyd you cant argue anyone else having a better career than him at a financial standpoint, and achievements.
A career filled with thrills, action and adoration from the people. Pac is definitely more than a winner. That’s what makes him the goat for me.
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Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View PostLongevity, accolades, resume... check.
I dont care if he doesn’t end up being the goat. He probably loses to the leonards and hearns of the world at welter. But what Im sure of is no one is more loved than Pacquiao. There is no other fighter that has inspired the world at the level that he reached.
Inspiring story, exciting fighter, still the people’s champ even at old age, the only asian that went H2H with an american superstar ppv numbers... and i don’t think there’d be another one. Fighter of the decade, oldest welterweight champ and the list goes on...
Floyd was hated most part of his career hiding, accused of ducking and getting pissed on interviews, while this dude has been having fun the entire time.
Haters can hate all they want, but Pac overachieved.. other than floyd you cant argue anyone else having a better career than him at a financial standpoint, and achievements.
A career filled with thrills, action and adoration from the people. Pac is definitely more than a winner. That’s what makes him the goat for me.
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Originally posted by BoZz View PostKellerman is a clown just like that idiot sephen a smith lol...I give pac respect he did a great job in his career but most of his fights were cherry picked by bob arum.
We all know every decent fighter he has faced he went to war with them, some he won some he lost..he never displayed "greatness" by winning a fight with proper boxing skills.
I can't give him respect for beating weight drained flop prank cherry picks..to name a few..de la hoya, cotto, margarito..and hatton was already done after floyd beat him, we all know floyd took his "soul".
And we've seen there was no "greatness" against marquez (a guy mayweather toyed with btw) ..even the win he got against marquez was questionable but marquez knocked him out to seal all the doubt.
So yea he did well, he gave us some good fights and respect for beating Thurman, but that man is no where to being great, only skilled boxers in the sport become greats.
he is definitely a great fighter
he proved that against Mayweather imho
the reason why..... we know that he was clean in that fight
that was an excellent performance from a clean fighter
just like how I know he was clean in the first 2x Marquez fights
FACT: if you are not truly world-class, Marquez will fcuk you up
even if you are truly world-class, Marquez can still fcuk you up
I rate Marquez REAL high
Pac is great, no question..... he is not a hypejob like Golovkin
there was a lot of rubbish in Pac's career, true..... but he is the real deal
this recent top 20 talk is utter fkn bollocks, beating Thurman did not move Pac's needle one little bit..... other than add one small + to the longevity factor, which is NOT in itself a genuine criteria for greatness..... there are great fighters who did not have great longevity, just like there are great fighters who only fought in 1 division
fighting longer, in multiple divisions, provides more opportunities..... which is why many greats did..... but neither of those things are essential
people are behaving like fools, simply because Pac beat a mid-level welter who has not looked like the same fighter since returning from injury..... who would have lost to FOUR other welters imo
FACT: when 4x other welters can do it..... then it aint that great
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Originally posted by pasawayako View PostWe are all very lucky that we witnessed the true lb4lb greatest of all time.
From flyweight upto jr middleweight
8 division champion
5 division lineal champion
3x foty
Fighter of the decade
Oldest welterweight champion
Wow just woooooow.
It's like a fictional achievements.
that is EXACTLY what your list is
not one of those " achievements " are a genuine criteria for greatness
you LITERALLY mentioned all of the casual-fan rubbish..... and did not even mention one single name, the only thing that really counts LMAO
keep trying kid
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