Ruiz Says Rematch Isn't Happening In The UK

[Eddy Current]

ruiz is the A-side. AJ heart not in the sport and most definitely a big time roider.

Ruiz probably is just as big of name as Joshua. In the UK, he's "the fat Mexican who beat our hero." In the US, he's "the fat Mexican who beat the British bodybuilder."

He's as widely known as Joshua due to the nature of the upset.

[OnlytheTruth]

The bottom line is...Ruiz signed the contract to get the fight with Joshua in the first place. Now he has to take the rough with the smooth.

The Joshua/Wilder and Wilder/Fury saga's have shown that just because you have a belt, you don't get it all your own way. The bigger picture is that I'm sure there will be a third fight where Ruiz decides the location.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ruiz takes 60 or 70% split though.

Hearn will be sharpening his knife collection in case Ruiz goes against the contract which, in some way, will royally F Ruiz over...which is a shame but Ruiz signed on the dotted line.

The lasting thing for Ruiz is that he exposed Joshua big time and ripped up the Hearn hype train. Ruiz is firmly in the mix of world title fights....but you can argue that Hearn (and Joshua) gave him that opportunity.

[OnlytheTruth]

To be honest, the UK is the most corrupt boxing state in history actually.

People paint this false narrative of honorable gentleman throwing down in the early days. hardly, it was a ******** ring featuring a ringmaster out to screw rich folk out of their money and nothing more.

Imagine if pro wrestling got taken really seriously and morphed into actual fights, that's boxing. That's the full extent of UK boxing history. Fixed fights until America takes control. Hell, first fight on US soil is only because the UK fans had enough of UK officiating and bull****artistry they came here to have a title fight during a time when no one gave a **** about boxing in the US. It's what sparked US interest, but, it only happened because their rules, their corruption, and their lies were so bad not even they could take it anymore.

To be honest, Don King and the WBC.

That is all.

[Marchegiano]

Lol what utter nonsense. So boxing in the US was nothing to do with culture carried across by the mass imigration or anything sensilble like that.

It was a couple of fans going "You know what Barry, boxing aint that good here in the UK the ref keeps calling early stoppages shall we go to America instead? The gangsters would never ever fix a fight there, they're ethical"

And just like that boxing ceased in the UK and was birthed in the US.

You're dumb if you don't think corruption runs through the core of world boxing with most participants trying to make an extra peso or climb another rung by any means necessary and regardless to the integrity of the sport. Hence the Olympic discussing the removal of the sport and not one nation.

There was no call for Burke, Burke came because England threw him away. Simplest way I can say it.

In America boxing was viewed as a violent european import not to be admired. It was squashed for wrestling by the 18th century and only got revived again in the 19th because the English had nowhere else to go with it.

I don't understand the **** issue you have actually. You just reworded the same **** I said with less detail.

Yeah, immigration did bring boxing to America....why did those boxers come here in the first place? The money was London. It isn't like today where the money is America, back then America wasn't even a major power. You explain to me why on earth you'd move to a place with less fighters and less audience and less revenue if not for the place who has it all tying you down with unwinnable situations.

[Marchegiano]

To be honest, Don King and the WBC.

That is all.

Look into how Gentleman John Jackson won his title. Not even Don King could have pulled that off.

WBC is fair though!

[Jax teller]

There was no call for Burke, Burke came because England threw him away. Simplest way I can say it.

In America boxing was viewed as a violent european import not to be admired. It was squashed for wrestling by the 18th century and only got revived again in the 19th because the English had nowhere else to go with it.

I don't understand the **** issue you have actually. You just reworded the same **** I said with less detail.

Yeah, immigration did bring boxing to America....why did those boxers come here in the first place? The money was London. It isn't like today where the money is America, back then America wasn't even a major power. You explain to me why on earth you'd move to a place with less fighters and less audience and less revenue if not for the place who has it all tying you down with unwinnable situations.

...because America Great, England Bad..... That's what you want to hear.

Are you denying corruption being spread across the whole of the boxing community?

Lol why if you're looking for a boxing legacy would you go to a place with no boxing? Seems like a terrible idea.

In answer to the Burke question -

"The Irish champion Sam O’Rourke challenged Burke for the title, but Burke declined when O’Rourke insisted that the fight be held in Ireland. O’Rourke then traveled to America, where he constantly denigrated Burke’s abilities and courage. On hearing of the insults, Burke decided to meet his challenger in New Orleans in 1836" that and difficulty of finding an oponent due to killing his previous.


Nothing a quick google can find out to disprove you adding your own narrative.

America was sold as the land of opportunity where the "streets are paved with gold" and with countries such as Ireland experiencing famine it was an obvious place to go. These people brought their traditions and sports which created a developing scene for professionals to then challenge in.

LMAO Burke returned to England to fight anyway so disproving anypoint about him disowning England because it was so terrible.

[EnglishOxide]

I've got a feeling it's going to be Nigeria. Eddie keeps talking about putting on a spectacle like Rumble in the Jungle or Thriller in Manila.

[New England]

Sounds legit, Whytes passes VADA testing but gets caught by UKAD, and UKAD are covering up for Whyte, the guy they caught with their testing? Did you think that through at all?

Shouldn't you be claiming VADA are covering for Whyte if anyone?

the failed UKAD test was leaked to a us journalist. they'd have swept it under the rug otherwise. they had a hearing the day of the fight FFS. none of the parties involved, including the state whose only job is to ensure safety and fairness, thought it was appropriate to inform rivas or his people.


and then there was the gloves!

ruiz is not going to take the rematch in the UK. he'd be a complete fool. this fight should be int he most neutral space for a major boxing mathcon the planet, las vegas, where it can also generate the most money. there will not be a major world title fight at HW in england for a long, long time. heads will have to roll in the commission.

[andocom]

the failed UKAD test was leaked to a us journalist. they'd have swept it under the rug otherwise. they had a hearing the day of the fight FFS. none of the parties involved, including the state whose only job is to ensure safety and fairness, thought it was appropriate to inform rivas or his people.


and then there was the gloves!

ruiz is not going to take the rematch in the UK. he'd be a complete fool. this fight should be int he most neutral space for a major boxing mathcon the planet, las vegas, where it can also generate the most money. there will not be a major world title fight at HW in england for a long, long time. heads will have to roll in the commission.

I'm not defending the NADP's decision, I just like everyone else don't know the details of the evidence presented to them, at some point that will come out and we can have an informed opinion if we think it is correct or not.

UKAD followed their (& WADA's) rules, they had a hearing (as per their rules) at which evidence was presented, based on that evidence they didn't impose a provisional suspension, Rivas team wasn't notified because thats the rules regarding athelete privacy, details aren't disclosed if an athelete didn't dope or until they are found to have & sanctioned.

Thats why heads won't roll, everyone followed the rules.

[Eff Pandas]

I've got a feeling it's going to be Nigeria. Eddie keeps talking about putting on a spectacle like Rumble in the Jungle or Thriller in Manila.

That was my thought initially too. Joshua was just there to.

Sounding like Vegas put in a late offer doe.