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  • nghtmr111
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    Question about Lineal title (Tyson Fury)

    There's a belt for the Lineal champ, correct? Why hasn't Tyson Fury walked out with that belt in recent fights? Or did I completely miss that?

    It's kinda odd for him to to be considered the lineal champ after he was out for 2 years for his issues, come back, and somehow is still the 'man'. I understand he is still undefeated but just weird to come back and claim it.

    This is not an attempt to bash him or anything, I'm just genuinely curious. Second part of this post is just my opinion. First part is more what I'm wanting to know about
  • boliodogs
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    It is just a mythical title not a real world title. Ring magazine may have lineal title belts but those belts have no real value or bring in even a dime. You can't just do nothing for years and stay even mythical or Ring magazine lineal champ, Fury won the lineal title by beating consensus lineal champ Wlad and rightfully so. Ring recognized him as lineal champ back then. Then Fury retired from boxing for personal problem for almost 3 years and Ring no longer recognized him as lineal champion. They have that title vacant. They will crown a lineal champion only when one man holds all the belts. That could happen if Wilder fights the winner of the AJ-Ruiz fight. Until Fury wins a world title he is no longer in the running for the lineal heavyweight title.

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    • Alf2408
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      #3
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      It is just a mythical title not a real world title. Ring magazine may have lineal title belts but those belts have no real value or bring in even a dime. You can't just do nothing for years and stay even mythical or Ring magazine lineal champ, Fury won the lineal title by beating consensus lineal champ Wlad and rightfully so. Ring recognized him as lineal champ back then. Then Fury retired from boxing for personal problem for almost 3 years and Ring no longer recognized him as lineal champion. They have that title vacant. They will crown a lineal champion only when one man holds all the belts. That could happen if Wilder fights the winner of the AJ-Ruiz fight. Until Fury wins a world title he is no longer in the running for the lineal heavyweight title.
      That's not true. Fury remains the Lineal champion and Ring Magazine recognise him as exactly that.

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      • thedarkdragon11
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        #4
        None... And Fury is not the reigning lineal champ anymore...

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          #5
          Originally posted by thedarkdragon11
          None... And Fury is not the reigning lineal champ anymore...
          Yes he is, he's the man who beat the man.

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          • Ray*
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            I don’t think there is an actual physical belt for it. I know ring magazine has one but not sure if that belt is given to the lineal or undisputed champion of a weight class.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Alf2408
              That's not true. Fury remains the Lineal champion and Ring Magazine recognise him as exactly that.
              ... nope... the Ring HW champ position is vacant right now... Fury is ranked as #1, but not as "champ"...

              https://www.r i n g t v .com/ratings/?weightclass=272

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              • *Makaveli*
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                Originally posted by denium
                Yes he is, he's the man who beat the man.
                The lineage has been broken so many times it's pointless. Lennox Lewis was the man and nobody beat him so how did Klitschko become the man without beating the man?

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                • Boxing Goat
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                  Originally posted by nghtmr111
                  There's a belt for the Lineal champ, correct? Why hasn't Tyson Fury walked out with that belt in recent fights? Or did I completely miss that?

                  It's kinda odd for him to to be considered the lineal champ after he was out for 2 years for his issues, come back, and somehow is still the 'man'. I understand he is still undefeated but just weird to come back and claim it.

                  This is not an attempt to bash him or anything, I'm just genuinely curious. Second part of this post is just my opinion. First part is more what I'm wanting to know about
                  No, there's no official belt for the lineal title but at one time if you had 'The Ring' belt, you were considered the true champ of the division.

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                  • paulf
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by makaveli1875
                    Lennox Lewis was the man and nobody beat him so how did Klitschko become the man without beating the man?
                    Bingo.

                    And if it was vacated when Lennox retired, why was it not vacated when Tyson retired? Because he came back? If Lennox announced a charity comeback fight would it be for the lineal title? Calling Tyson the lineal champ is absurd.

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