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  • #21
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
    Because it's a PPV & big fight. Needs proper promotion. Can't just move a fight like that.
    What are you talking about? Spence/Porter was officially announced after word got out that Canelo wasn't fighting on September 14. They could have set up the fight for that date and had plenty of promotion for it. Now, LIS, I have no idea if the Staples Center was available for that date or not. If not, it makes sense why they stuck with September 28.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by j.razor View Post
      I got Devin Haney over l0m0. Why do you think they took the title shot away from him that he was supposed to get? They trying to keep Devin away from l0m0 till Devin can't make weight no more.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRgeP1LGPa0

      Oh & a matter of fact, Teo said that since he didn't look so hot fighting the Japanese dude that NOW l0m0's team is making contact with Teo's team....LMMFAO!
      WOW! I thought Commey vs. Lopez was on lock?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
        I just don't understand why some people are Network/Promotional groupies instead of boxing fan's...

        ...

        Them hoes support anything and everything Al Haymon does...
        It's all simple: many of them are just virtual accounts of one or few folks which are actually paid by PBC to promote their fighters (and demote the rest). It's relatively cheap and it gives much more back. The same for a number of YouTube channels, which post news with opinions and fight reviews for all, but only give favorable reviews for PBC fighters and never for others. And also there's a second wave - those who listened to these channels too much and then came to forums.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by j.razor View Post
          You can't compare Devin to Crolla or Campbell. Devin is better than them.
          Better than Crolla, but not sure if better than Campbell. In any case I always welcome a fight to determine who's better. Either directly or through Loma.
          Last edited by StargazerV; 07-31-2019, 09:46 AM. Reason: fixed typo

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          • #25
            Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
            What are you talking about? Spence/Porter was officially announced after word got out that Canelo wasn't fighting on September 14. They could have set up the fight for that date and had plenty of promotion for it. Now, LIS, I have no idea if the Staples Center was available for that date or not. If not, it makes sense why they stuck with September 28.
            The 28th was already the date before it was officially announced. One of the reasons Canelo claimed for skipping the date was there wouldn't be adequate time to properly promote it. That's the same issue Spence/Porter would've had. These smaller, lesser fights can be made that quickly. The bigger fights need proper promotion. Way more money is on the line and way more is stood to be lost worried proper promotion

            You can't just switch dates from Fox. Venues from Staples center two weeks up. All that stuff was already worked out before the official announcement. The marketing strategy was already determined. There are a lot of small things you don't take into consideration. It's not easy to move a date, especially forward, of a big fight. All marketing materials, hundreds of thousands of dollars, would have to be changed. Commerical time slots already bought would have to change. A lot of thing you aren't realizing.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
              The 28th was already the date before it was officially announced. One of the reasons Canelo claimed for skipping the date was there wouldn't be adequate time to properly promote it. That's the same issue Spence/Porter would've had. These smaller, lesser fights can be made that quickly. The bigger fights need proper promotion. Way more money is on the line and way more is stood to be lost worried proper promotion

              You can't just switch dates from Fox. Venues from Staples center two weeks up. All that stuff was already worked out before the official announcement. The marketing strategy was already determined. There are a lot of small things you don't take into consideration. It's not easy to move a date, especially forward, of a big fight. All marketing materials, hundreds of thousands of dollars, would have to be changed. Commerical time slots already bought would have to change. A lot of thing you aren't realizing.
              No, I'm fully understanding everything. What you don't understand is that the Canelo decision didn't just come out of left field. A month before he officially decided to get off the date, there were reports out there saying he may not fight on September 14. At that point, PBC should have put a hold on the Staples Center (if possible) for September 14 in case Canelo dropped the date.

              But whatever, September 28 is fine as well.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                No, I'm fully understanding everything. What you don't understand is that the Canelo decision didn't just come out of left field. A month before he officially decided to get off the date, there were reports out there saying he may not fight on September 14. At that point, PBC should have put a hold on the Staples Center (if possible) for September 14 in case Canelo dropped the date.

                But whatever, September 28 is fine as well.
                PBC isn't in the Canelo business. They can't base their fight dates around Canelo rumors. By the time these fight dates are announced most of the groundwork has been laid. Here's a video on July 10th saying the Spence/Porter date is September 28th before PBC officially announced it

                https://********/qwTxiBUiLm0

                Canelo announced on July 17th that he'd be skipping the September date. So Spence/Porter already had a date way before it was announced.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                  PBC isn't in the Canelo business. They can't base their fight dates around Canelo rumors. By the time these fight dates are announced most of the groundwork has been laid. Here's a video on July 10th saying the Spence/Porter date is September 28th before PBC officially announced it

                  https://********/qwTxiBUiLm0

                  Canelo announced on July 17th that he'd be skipping the September date. So Spence/Porter already had a date way before it was announced.
                  That has nothing to do with them putting a hold on the Staples Center for September 14 in case Canelo doesn't fight on that date. And Spence just a few weeks before that was telling Tim Smith he would see him on September 21 so the date was still in flux.

                  But whatever, no need to really debate this any further. September 28 it is!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                    That has nothing to do with them putting a hold on the Staples Center for September 14 in case Canelo doesn't fight on that date. And Spence just a few weeks before that was telling Tim Smith he would see him on September 21 so the date was still in flux.

                    But whatever, no need to really debate this any further. September 28 it is!
                    You seem to be missing the whole point. You want them to schedule a fight for Sept 14th based on rumors Canelo may not fight on September 14th. I'm showing, and telling you, these dates are set way before the official announcements. It's not just a case of securing a venue. You're dismissing the date Fox gave them. You're dismissing the marketing strategy development based on that date. You're dismissing the commerical buys already bought. These things are done months in advance. By the time you get there official date the money has already been spent for that date. You're extremely naive if you think all it takes to make a fight is a venue & date change.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                      You seem to be missing the whole point. You want them to schedule a fight for Sept 14th based on rumors Canelo may not fight on September 14th. I'm showing, and telling you, these dates are set way before the official announcements. It's not just a case of securing a venue. You're dismissing the date Fox gave them. You're dismissing the marketing strategy development based on that date. You're dismissing the commerical buys already bought. These things are done months in advance. By the time you get there official date the money has already been spent for that date. You're extremely naive if you think all it takes to make a fight is a venue & date change.
                      I never said the dates aren't set before the official announcement. But I'm telling you sometime in June, Spence was telling Tim Smith he will see him on September 21. That showed the date wasn't officially set yet. If Haymon went to FOX and told them they want the September 14 date and the venue was open, they would have given him that date. FOX isn't ****** and understand the importance of that date in boxing.

                      And you don't think they could have had planned marketing strategies for the fight for either the 14th or the 28th? If the planned beforehand they absolutely could have. You are acting like I'm saying they needed to just change the date right when Canelo made his announcement without preparing for it. No, I'm not saying that at all. All I'm saying is they should have prepared to go with the fight for both dates if possible, once it became clear that Canelo may not be going on September 14. If you think guys like Pugmire and Coppinger hear this stuff month or months before the official announcement, you don't think people inside boxing know either? You don't think the PBC knew there was a chance Canelo was a no go for that September 14 date?

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