Comments Thread For: Lomachenko: I Want All Four Belts at 135, To Be Undisputed

[Ake-Dawg]

GIVE ME SOME NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ATG HE COULD FIGHT?

I'm not ignoring ****. You are.

If you cant do that your point is completely irrelevant. You're just talking **** at this point.

Lomachenko is a 3 division world champion who started boxing professionally at 25 when he was already near his full size. 3 divisions in 6 years? Fighting in a division where he is already the smaller man too? Lomachneko has plans to go back to 130 if he becomes undisputed at 135. That's proof enough hes fight above his weight limit. Guy looks healthy and not drained at all during weigh ins.

Lomachenko has beat how many world champions and won how many titles? Hes not an ATG yet but if he continues why not? IF he becomes undisputed you have no argument. Tell me how many undisputed champions do we have in the entire boxing history? IF he returns to 130 and continues to win why not?

And again. You say you need to be a multi division champ. Lomachenko is a 3 division world champ. That's not good enough eh? Guess LHW, cruisers, and HWs came be all time greats too. LHWs going to HW max out at 3 time world champs, cruises 2 times, HW is just one time.

Tell me again how your argument makes sense?

Continues with what? Again...I laid out what I feel he has to do to reach ATG status. It wasn't about beating any ATGs.

FYI
Evander Holyfield...former cruiser...dominated cruiserweight then beat HOF level heavies...ATG.

Bottom line...smaller guys become ATGs by moving up and beating guys bigger than them or beating HOF level small guys. PERIOD

[CaptainWalrus]

not at all, like i said before...how can you call his opponents worthy when they all quit..walters had no interest in fighting..came for a big payday and that was it..we never seen him afterwards..maybe bob arum gave him a good pay to throw the fight. Against salido his "magical" boxing abilities didn't work. So far not one proper champ on his resume.

Did you consider they were getting schooled? Levels!

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Continues with what? Again...I laid out what I feel he has to do to reach ATG status. It wasn't about beating any ATGs.

FYI
Evander Holyfield...former cruiser...dominated cruiserweight then beat HOF level heavies...ATG.

Bottom line...smaller guys become ATGs by moving up and beating guys bigger than them or beating HOF level small guys. PERIOD

NAME SOME HOF GUYS 126-140 GUYS HE COULD BEAT TO BE AN ATG

It's tough isnt it? Theres no one. Maybe it would be competitive if he wasnt around but he is so far above everyone that his competition looks weak.

He already is fighting much bigger men than himself at 135. Have you seen Lomachenko stand next to any of his opponents at 135? The only guy who was close in size was Crolla. Linares, Pedraza, and now Luke Campbell all look significantly bigger than himself.

Luke Campbell looks near damn a Welter standing next to Lomachenko.

You keep changing your own personal requirements to become an ATG its hilarious.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Pacquiao is on fire right now! I thought Loma should have taken the fight after Pac KO'd Matthysse! The fight would be even bigger now that Pac has beaten Broner and Thurman! I don't know if Pac would still be willing to drop to 140lbs., but if he is, the reward is definitely worth the risk!

I guess. But Turman and Matty are pretty low-tier fighters.

What is Thurman's claim to fame? His close, close fight w/ Garcia. The fact that Mayweather dodged him, just like everyone else with a pulse? Pac might have even gotten between Thurman's ears. No way he does that against Lomachenko.

[Ake-Dawg]

NAME SOME HOF GUYS 126-140 GUYS HE COULD BEAT TO BE AN ATG

It's tough isnt it? Theres no one. Maybe it would be competitive if he wasnt around but he is so far above everyone that his competition looks weak.

He already is fighting much bigger men than himself at 135. Have you seen Lomachenko stand next to any of his opponents at 135? The only guy who was close in size was Crolla. Linares, Pedraza, and now Luke Campbell all look significantly bigger than himself.

Luke Campbell looks near damn a Welter standing next to Lomachenko.

You keep changing your own personal requirements to become an ATG its hilarious.

I haven't changed anything. Beat HOF level guys at his natural weight(s) or move up and beat bigger guys at 140 (like the ones I named).

You seem to want to argue that since there are no current HOF level guys at 126-135 to beat and YOU don't think he can beat legit 140 champs, then we should just consider him an ATG off talent and your eye test alone.

That's a no for me.

PS....You named the only two "bigger" fighters he defeated. However one is a former featherweight and the other a former super featherweight. Both quality wins but their careers prior to and afterwards limit the weight you can apply to the wins.

[Bronx2245]

I guess. But Turman and Matty are pretty low-tier fighters.

What is Thurman's claim to fame? His close, close fight w/ Garcia. The fact that Mayweather dodged him, just like everyone else with a pulse? Pac might have even gotten between Thurman's ears. No way he does that against Lomachenko.

It doesn't matter! It's the type of fight Pacquiao wants! That's the type of fight Jerry Jones wants! That's the type of fight the world wants! I would rather Pac fight Loma @ 140 then Pac fighting Spence or Crawford @ 147!

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I haven't changed anything. Beat HOF level guys at his natural weight(s) or move up and beat bigger guys at 140 (like the ones I named).

You seem to want to argue that since there are no current HOF level guys at 126-135 to beat and YOU don't think he can beat legit 140 champs, then we should just consider him an ATG off talent and your eye test alone.

That's a no for me.

PS....You named the only two "bigger" fighters he defeated. However one is a former featherweight and the other a former super featherweight. Both quality wins but their careers prior to and afterwards limit the weight you can apply to the wins.

Read what you wrote in bold then read what I wrote in bold BEFORE you replied.

Lomachenko is maxed out at 135.

I dont think he is ATG yet but some of these guys saying he couldnt be should he unify is nuts and that he needs to prove himself in a class he doesnt belong.

People dont want to see his worth. They just want to see the guy lose. Lomachenko could move up to 140 lbs but he would be even more undersized than he is now at 135. What does that prove? The bigger man wins?

And what kind of competition is there at 140? It's not even looking like that spectacular of a division itself.

He could move up and become a 4 division champ by picking off a paper champ and belt holder but what would that prove? Nothing.

Imagine saying floyd isnt an ATG because he didnt go up to 160lbs despite the fact he didn't even want to fight at 154 and was very undersized.

Like is saying floyd is afraid to fight GGG true? I dont think so. But imagine people arguing that.

Lomachenko imo will never fight at a catchweight because he believes in weight classes. They exist for a reason. So if a fighter wants him to go up or to meet in the middle he wont. He doesnt care because his goal is to be the best in his weight division.

And the guy can still make 130 comfortably. All these 140 guys couldnt even make 135. They're much bigger.

Like holy ****. This is how you know you're dumb as ****. I wrote this before you wrote your latest reply. You don't read **** do you?

Is that how you want to argue? Pretend I said **** I clearly never said and then only hear what you want to hear dispite the fact it was never said?

Lmfao. What a fail. Goodbye.

[Ake-Dawg]

Read what you wrote in bold then read what I wrote in bold BEFORE you replied.



Like holy ****. This is how you know you're dumb as ****. I wrote this before you wrote your latest reply. You don't read **** do you?

Is that how you want to argue? Pretend I said **** I clearly never said and then only hear what you want to hear dispite the fact it was never said?

Lmfao. What a fail. Goodbye.

Genius....unifying all the belts won't be fighting HOF level fighters or moving up to fight at 140. Having all the belts at 135 doesn't and won't make him an ATG. Great? Sure...just not all time great in the same breath op Pep, Louis, Ali, Dempsey, etc.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Genius....unifying all the belts won't be fighting HOF level fighters or moving up to fight at 140. Having all the belts at 135 doesn't and won't make him an ATG. Great? Sure...just not all time great in the same breath op Pep, Louis, Ali, Dempsey, etc.

Too bad your opinion won't matter in the criteria of determining who is and isn't an ATG boxer. It won't even stop him from entering the HOF.

Sucks for you.

[Ake-Dawg]

Too bad your opinion won't matter in the criteria of determining who is and isn't an ATG boxer. It won't even stop him from entering the HOF.

Sucks for you.

Neither will yours...soooo...kma

You sensitive fangirls are something else..