Comments Thread For: Lomachenko: I Want All Four Belts at 135, To Be Undisputed

[factsarenice]

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[EL_GRINGO]

Real Talk man! 135 is such a midiocre division. Unifying wouldn’t mean that much. If he really wants to make history he needs to do it @ 140 and stop wasting time @ 135

He's just too small to be there,we have to be reasonable tooth started late and his body was already fully grown, he's not getting anymore taller then he is now, he is physical frame is set, he can make 126 easily now, he's fighting above his weight,Luke Campbell,Linares and Fighters like teofimo lopez are a lot bigger then him, the size difference is really obvious, he's at his limit,he's fighting bigger men with longer reach,140 is just too much, too bad because there are good fighters and interesting matchup's, but he's really too small, nothing you can do about, but there will be god fight down the line at 135,Lopez,Haney,Tank Davis,Sakur Stevenson maybe, all good and talented fighters, he just has to make do with what he has now, now reason to go to 140 now, just to probably lose because it's too much of a difference,hell did you see Mikey and Loma's picture together when Mikey was at 135,he was already significantly bigger then Loma,
I support Loma but i will never Demand Davis to go to 140 to see him lose, he has the power and has skills, but he's just too small for 140,he's already gonna be small for 135,he's young maybe he will grown although i don't think so, he's got the power, skills and mass to move up, but his height is working against him, not everyone is made to move up during the weights like some fighters did

[EL_GRINGO]

Klimas has confirmed that Loma will eventually move up to 140lb division. Be patient.

To be honest, the said they keep the door open and it's a possibility but i will depend on how his body will be develop and it's not a given he will ever move up to 140 and i expect honestly he won't move up, because i don't see his body growing anymore at his age and he already looked very small compared to campbell,to Linares as well, too Mikey too when they met and Mikey was fighting at 135,i wouldn't hope on him moving up,i think if there were, very good fighters and fights available at 130,he should move back down again after he unifies all belts,or a catchweight Mikey fight, round 137-138 maybe with rehydration clause

[EL_GRINGO]

Too bad he never wanted to fight Mikey Garcia for his belt's.

Orlando Salido broke Lomachencko physically & mentally. He never was able to recover after that loss. He just couldn't build up the courage to take on such a huge challenge like Mikey Garcia.

He didn't, he gave him his best work ever though, props to Salido,no one else was ever to replicate his success,not even Rigondeaux the master,Lomachenko is mentally strong, he didn't became a Broner and never returned to his former Level,he has Learned and improved and become better from his fight with Salido,that shows he's mentally very strong,people always inadvertently diss Salido when they say, but he lost to Salido do, like salad is the worst fighter ever, he might have not been the best, but he was a good fighter, with incredible will power and hard as rocks, smart knowing when to box dirty, using it to his advantage.
He might have fought dirty to beat Loma but he also did good besides the dirty punches he landed, i have seen nobody else doing that on Loma,Maybe Salido's style just doesn't suite Loma,thatb Maiden,Salido style brawler, relentless and always on you.
whatever the case, props to Salido and Props to Loma because that Salido maybe ended up being a gift and the best lesson he could get early on, that's how you recognise great fighter, the get bet better and learn from losses, it doesn't break them, they take out the positive, and improve

[EL_GRINGO]

All the belts at 135 is fine...Campbell then the Lopez Commey winner. If he gets past that fight unscathed then 140 is where he should meet Garcia, The Super Series winner, Pacman, or the Hooker Ramirez winner.

I think 140 is too Much,Maybe Garcia at 137-138,when he has a couples at 140 under his belt as his body has adapted, he fought Ramirez in the amateurs and won, but it was competitive and not lopsided at all, but he managed to pull out the victory, but even then in the same weightclass,Ramirez was really massively bigger, and i mean it's very big to overcome,i'm not against moving up in weight when it's like crawford and your growing in those those classes, because your body is growing or you have the height and physical frame, but i am not a fan of fighter's that keep moving up and ending up much smaller, shorter and frame wise, making the fight to unevenly like it more fairy would rather see a fighter staying to what's do able, instead of going to high up in weights like to see them at their best, even if they are extremely talented and goody like to see them at there best against equal competition, you will never get that if they move up too much

[Lomasexual]

Unifying is always a good thing. I wish all boxers were chasing unification in the same way that Loma is.

Once he unifies 135, I'm hoping he goes back down to 130 and unifies there too.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Loma is quite the talent. That can be seen with the eye easily. He is one of the best p4p right now. However the praise he gets from some is ATG level praise which many feel he isn't deserving of yet. Simply put, certain fans wanna put him on a Pacquiao level without him doing Pacquiao things.

What's wrong with people wanting to see Loma beat guys at 140 before they give him a certain level of praise?

Lomachenko is maxed out at 135.

I dont think he is ATG yet but some of these guys saying he couldnt be should he unify is nuts and that he needs to prove himself in a class he doesnt belong.

People dont want to see his worth. They just want to see the guy lose. Lomachenko could move up to 140 lbs but he would be even more undersized than he is now at 135. What does that prove? The bigger man wins?

And what kind of competition is there at 140? It's not even looking like that spectacular of a division itself.

He could move up and become a 4 division champ by picking off a paper champ and belt holder but what would that prove? Nothing.

Imagine saying floyd isnt an ATG because he didnt go up to 160lbs despite the fact he didn't even want to fight at 154 and was very undersized.

Like is saying floyd is afraid to fight GGG true? I dont think so. But imagine people arguing that.

Lomachenko imo will never fight at a catchweight because he believes in weight classes. They exist for a reason. So if a fighter wants him to go up or to meet in the middle he wont. He doesnt care because his goal is to be the best in his weight division.

And the guy can still make 130 comfortably. All these 140 guys couldnt even make 135. They're much bigger.

[EL_GRINGO]

What history is that? Is it just a repeat of what someone else did? Or let me guess your gonna say it has something to do with him waiting till he’s like 27 to turn pro! You see I’ve heard it all and I don’t give much credit to an old as dude with hella experience in boxing turning pro hella late and then getting title shot in a second to third fight. Again boxing wise Yes he technically did make history but for him personally with ALL THAT EXPERIENCE, was it really impressive? Just some more run of the mill record setting that don’t really matter just like gggs defenses. They really didn’t matter cuzz his opposition was easy. Don’t get offended but these two guys have been hyped up too much and they haven’t taken enough risks! If Loma is ok with fighting little guys like Rigo then we should ask if He’s willing to fight a P4P at that equal disadvantage that he willing fought Rigo at. But of course your gonna call me a hater for wanting to see Loma put to the test.

Rigo and fans pressured for months for that fight and due to no other quality opponent they made the fight, he wasn't really happy with it,he's already fighting in a weightclass he's a lot smaller overall, height,body frame, difference,linares,campbell,even Pedraza,Mikey Garcia was also just a bigger man's he's fighting bigger competion,as i see the height difference known would be @ 140 like Floyd would look against heard, or 160 fighters,looked what happened to chocolatito,you can be a very good fighter but if you go up to high, it will end more then likely bad, Mikey great fighter, went to high, boxed against a very good fighter and lost,Rigo a legendary fighter, and amateur legend,renowned technician, speed,power,defense,coulnd't overcome size, Frampton and Donaire went above their ideal weight,you can move up a lot of weight classes when your body is developing and growing, once your full-grown ,you can only move up a certain amount, after Floyd had a full grown body, he didn't keep moving up,147 was doable, not too much so he could be succesful,if he would have kept moving up, his talent would eventually meet his match talented much more bigger guy,it's just the way it is

[Ake-Dawg]

I think 140 is too Much,Maybe Garcia at 137-138,when he has a couples at 140 under his belt as his body has adapted, he fought Ramirez in the amateurs and won, but it was competitive and not lopsided at all, but he managed to pull out the victory, but even then in the same weightclass,Ramirez was really massively bigger, and i mean it's very big to overcome,i'm not against moving up in weight when it's like crawford and your growing in those those classes, because your body is growing or you have the height and physical frame, but i am not a fan of fighter's that keep moving up and ending up much smaller, shorter and frame wise, making the fight to unevenly like it more fairy would rather see a fighter staying to what's do able, instead of going to high up in weights like to see them at their best, even if they are extremely talented and goody like to see them at there best against equal competition, you will never get that if they move up too much

How much is too much? Just seems people don't want him to move up "too much" and lose. I want to see all his talent and training tested. See if he has another gear or level.

[Ake-Dawg]

Lomachenko is maxed out at 135.

I dont think he is ATG yet but some of these guys saying he couldnt be should he unify is nuts and that he needs to prove himself in a class he doesnt belong.

People dont want to see his worth. They just want to see the guy lose. Lomachenko could move up to 140 lbs but he would be even more undersized than he is now at 135. What does that prove? The bigger man wins?

And what kind of competition is there at 140? It's not even looking like that spectacular of a division itself.

He could move up and become a 4 division champ by picking off a paper champ and belt holder but what would that prove? Nothing.

Imagine saying floyd isnt an ATG because he didnt go up to 160lbs despite the fact he didn't even want to fight at 154 and was very undersized.

Like is saying floyd is afraid to fight GGG true? I dont think so. But imagine people arguing that.

Lomachenko imo will never fight at a catchweight because he believes in weight classes. They exist for a reason. So if a fighter wants him to go up or to meet in the middle he wont. He doesnt care because his goal is to be the best in his weight division.

And the guy can still make 130 comfortably. All these 140 guys couldnt even make 135. They're much bigger.

Floyd is a 5 division champ though with a list of HOF fighters on his resume. He didn't need to move up to MW. Loma either has to stick around and weight for HOF level fighters to move up or surface at 135 or keep moving up.