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  • Coppinger Reveals More Info on Whyte's Dirty Test!

    Inside the Dillian Whyte-Oscar Rivas controversy, from ultra-trace amounts of banned substances to unexpected gloves

    https://theathletic.com/1099491/2019...s-controversy/

    By Mike Coppinger

    After being forced to fight without a title shot, despite being in the top position for over 600 days, the WBC sanctioned his bout with Oscar Rivas for its interim heavyweight title and stipulated that the winner would receive a title shot next year.

    Whyte survived a rocky moment — a ninth-round knockdown — to edge Rivas on points in an action-packed brawl Saturday at the O2 in London. It seemed Whyte, 31, could now simply wait to see who would emerge victorious in 2020 rematch between WBC heavyweight titleholder Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury.

    Then, the news hit. BoxingScene reported this week that Whyte tested positive for the banned substances epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone, byproducts of the anabolic steroid dianabol. The report indicated the positive test was known in advance of the fight, leaving many questions.
    Whyte’s A sample revealed the metabolites; his B sample hasn’t been tested yet. The collection date of the samples isn’t known.

    One metabolite — 17-epimithandienone —was evident in Whyte’s system at a measurement of 0.9 ng/ml (nanograms per milliliter), an industry source told The Athletic. That’s nine-tenths of one part per billion, signifying an ultra-trace amount of the substance.

    Another metabolite — 6B-hydroxymethandienone — was found at a measurement of 3.0 ng/ml, per source, which equals three parts per billion, also considered an ultra-trace amount.

    Eddie Hearn, Whyte’s longtime promoter, told The Athletic on Thursday at the Maurice Hooker-Jose Ramirez news conference that the heavyweight contender was cleared by United Kingdom Anti-Doping (UKAD) and by the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBoC) to compete during a hearing that took place the week of the fight. (Hearn declined to reveal the date of the hearing.)

    Rivas and his team, which include promoter Yvon Michel, were never notified that there was an adverse finding in Whyte’s system nor were they aware of a hearing prior to publication of the report, Rivas’ cutman, Russ Anber, told The Athletic. “Up to this moment, nobody on the concerned parties has confirmed or denied to us this information,” the Canadian promoter tweeted Thursday. Michel didn’t return a text message or phone call seeking comment.

    Hearn felt no obligation to report the finding after Whyte was cleared to fight at the hearing, where he was questioned and provided information.

    “Whether you agree with the decision or don’t agree with the decision (to let Whyte fight), they’re the governing body,” Hearn said. “If you have an issue with that, speak to them.”

    Whyte and Rivas also underwent advanced testing conducted by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association as mandated by the WBC. Those results haven’t been revealed yet, though Hearn claims Whyte passed a pre-fight test conducted by VADA. When an athlete flunks a VADA test, the organization notifies all parties involved.

    This isn’t the first time a fight was allowed to go through despite a positive result that was known in advance. Hall of Famer Erik Morales failed a drug test after clenbuterol was found in his system, but his 2012 rematch with Danny Garcia proceeded.

    “Let the truth come out before you make decisions based on a BoxingScene article,” Hearn pleaded. “What you need to know is this was heard prior to the fight, it wasn’t swept under the carpet. There was a hearing, he was cleared and the fight took place.”

    This isn’t the first time Whyte (26-1, 18 KOs) is under the microscope related to performance-enhancing substances. He tested positive for methylhexaneamine after a fourth-round knockout of Sandor Balogh in October 2012 and was subsequently suspended two years.

    What punishment Whyte faces if any, moving forward remains up in the air and is in the hands of UKAD and the BBBoC.

    "I am so disappointed with the rubbish that has been said about me over the last few days,” Whyte said Friday in a statement released on his social media platforms. “I have lawyers dealing with it and I have been told that I can’t talk about it for good legal reasons. I was cleared to fight and I won that fight fair and square.”

    Even in trace amounts, two metabolites were found in Whyte’s system. The BBBoC observes the World Anti-Doping Agency’s (WADA) rules — the organization that oversees drug law for the Olympic Games — which state that an athlete is responsible for what enters its body regardless of how it got there under Rule 10.

    Victor Conte, who founded the infamous Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO) and served time in prison for supplying designer performance-enhancing substances to world-class athletes, says the evidence of multiple metabolites in Whyte’s system confirms he was exposed to a drug.

    Now, the question that remains is just how those Dianabol metabolites entered Whyte’s system.

    “If he was unwittingly exposed to (a PED) with no intent to cheat, he’ll have to pay the price,” Conte, who now supervises the nutrition of many top boxers under his Bay Area-based SNAC brand, told The Athletic during a phone interview Friday. Conte says he doesn’t like the rule since it allows for the possibility that someone is penalized who did nothing wrong, “and that’s not right.”

    A positive test under the WADA code is qualitative rather than quantitative, Conte observed. “You’re guilty until proven innocent; you must provide evidence,” he said.

    Whyte hasn’t shined any light yet on how the substances entered his body. He didn’t return a text message seeking comment.

    The BBBoC released the following non-statement in response to the events: “With regard to the above, United Kingdom Anti-Doping undertake all anti-doping procedures on behalf of the British Boxing Board of Control and any subsequent findings, decisions, suspensions and sanctions are upheld by the British Boxing Board of Control in line with United Kingdom Anti-Doping.

    “No further comment will be made at this time.”

  • #2
    Am still baffled how VADA didn’t catch the same thing that UKAD (WADA) caught Whyte for.

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    • #3
      Obviously with this being a Boxing forum we are all guna run wild and say what we want but at the same time we will all just have to see and see how the dust settles on this one. There is certainly more rumours than facts coming out at the present.

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      • #4
        Makes sense. You use Dbol to kick start a test cycle, and you do that far outside of testing so trace amounts would be in line with pre fight testing. The timing of the vada tests could be why they didn't catch him. These metabolites don't just accidentally show up.

        All in all, there seems to be great effort to cover for this guy. Even with the glove situation. Just like when the Russians were caught in state sponsored doping, there needs to be action taken against the boards that allowed this dirty shyt to be taking place. You see some UK fans on 24/7 damage control. If the fans are that crazy it's not unreasonable to think the people running the sport there are as well. You didn't see this effort to excuse a guy when Miller was busted. The US straight turned on his ass.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
          Makes sense. You use Dbol to kick start a test cycle, and you do that far outside of testing so trace amounts would be in line with pre fight testing. The timing of the vada tests could be why they didn't catch him. These metabolites don't just accidentally show up.

          All in all, there seems to be great effort to cover for this guy. Even with the glove situation. Just like when the Russians were caught in state sponsored doping, there needs to be action taken against the boards that allowed this dirty shyt to be taking place. You see some UK fans on 24/7 damage control. If the fans are that crazy it's not unreasonable to think the people running the sport there are as well. You didn't see this effort to excuse a guy when Miller was busted. The US straight turned on his ass.
          If Whyte was using then VADA should have caught him. The drug is detectable for upto 19 days. They were doing their advanced testing, where they test multiple times during training. No excuses.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
            Makes sense. You use Dbol to kick start a test cycle, and you do that far outside of testing so trace amounts would be in line with pre fight testing. The timing of the vada tests could be why they didn't catch him. These metabolites don't just accidentally show up.

            All in all, there seems to be great effort to cover for this guy. Even with the glove situation. Just like when the Russians were caught in state sponsored doping, there needs to be action taken against the boards that allowed this dirty shyt to be taking place. You see some UK fans on 24/7 damage control. If the fans are that crazy it's not unreasonable to think the people running the sport there are as well. You didn't see this effort to excuse a guy when Miller was busted. The US straight turned on his ass.
            i dont think you can say robbie barrett is a) a fan or b) sane. he is literally ret@rded.

            As for Miller he has neither the team or the promotional clout to even attempt to cover for him in comparison to whyte/AJ.
            Hearn will try and cover this up best he can, guy is snakeoil salesman & an utter utter c^nt to put it lightly.

            Canelo and AJ will get away with juicing, but whyte is not on the level of those guys so he MIGHT get whats coming to him, heres hoping...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              If Whyte was using then VADA should have caught him. The drug is detectable for upto 19 days. They were doing their advanced testing, where they test multiple times during training. No excuses.
              Notice the PAC amonia salts thread got deleted?

              1.) CBS Sports
              2.) PAC diehards reporting the thread
              3.) PBC LDBC fanboys not wanting to ruin the integrity of the Thurman Pac fight....even though industry reporters had already questioned the ''VADA style'' flop and late testing to begin with..

              Truth is, Robbie, VADA are a corrupt organization. Josh Taylor, Campbell, Joshua... the Luke Skywalkers at Matchroom. Hearn must have a lot discipline and love for the sport to continue to allow interviews with random blokes when all others are afraid. If Whyte did intentionally, we should also assume Eddie is defending benefit of doubt for Whyte for the time being. Yeah it's shady that the Rivas team weren't notified, and I do understand the due process from the BBBoC or UKAD withholding information, but in my opinion it's wrong.

              Matchroom should've took the gamble and paid the Rivas team and speak diplomatically about the situation. If the BBBofC has a good enough excuse for Haymon's guy, then risk a good turnout and assume they'll take renegotiation days away from the fight like Prize fights for weight mishaps.

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              • #8
                If it's contamination, then where was he getting whatever supplements he uses? He trains with sport scientists at a good university, not in some shady South London boxing gym. Why are they even allowing outside substances in?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mlac View Post
                  ay with juicing, but whyte is not on the level of those guys so he MIGHT get whats coming to him, heres hoping...
                  well then Jarrell Miller must be on Canelo's level because he was popped with the most notorious PEDS in the game close to his fight that weren't even trace levels...and got just 6 months like Canelo whom had meat contamination 80 days away...

                  Must be good being Miller. Bigger than anyone in the game

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                    Makes sense. You use Dbol to kick start a test cycle, and you do that far outside of testing so trace amounts would be in line with pre fight testing. The timing of the vada tests could be why they didn't catch him. These metabolites don't just accidentally show up.

                    All in all, there seems to be great effort to cover for this guy. Even with the glove situation. Just like when the Russians were caught in state sponsored doping, there needs to be action taken against the boards that allowed this dirty shyt to be taking place. You see some UK fans on 24/7 damage control. If the fans are that crazy it's not unreasonable to think the people running the sport there are as well. You didn't see this effort to excuse a guy when Miller was busted. The US straight turned on his ass.
                    Apples and oranges with Miller situation

                    I personally think everyone should wait until the smoke clears. Although even if he ingested accidentally, ignorance isn't an excuse.

                    Your theory doesn't hold up either, those drugs would have shown up sooner in larger traces if he had done what you're saying.

                    Anyway - let's see

                    As far as corruption in UK boxing, absolute caveman stuff, Americans think they are the only just country and democracy in the world.

                    Plenty of fighters have come here and had no issues, although sometimes I haven't enjoyed the refereeing, but that applies to fights between UK fighters as well. Premature stoppages is normally the biggest complaint, but I think.a big part of that stems from the 80s-90s with Mcllelan, Watson, Spencer Oliver etc all suffering life altering injuries.

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