Pacquiao is put back onto Ring Magazine's P4P list (at #10)

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  • spenz
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    #31
    I don't think there would be a lot of complaints if Manny went to number one, he has a legitimate reason to be so after beating Thurman who has the greatest welterweight resume out there beside Pac and also still undefeated, but it is what it is, Ring Magazine must have a different criteria of ranking than TBRB and others as well.

    I think the main reason for Ring Magazine is eye test. They believe Manny can't beat Crawford and Errol, they already pre-judged him. TBRB went to the more objective route, they believe Khan is too delusional to be a good win and Mikey Garcia is obviously not a true Welterweight who just went up 2 weight division and the rest of Manny, Crawford and Errol's competition is something to complain about.

    There was no really impressive competition for the 3 of them other than Keith Thurman who is coming in his greatest physical shape ever, Keith's physic is so transformed that even Danny Garcia was so shook proclaiming him the winner of the fight in advance. Contrary to popular belief, I believe this is also the very best version of Keith Thurman, this Keith is measured, not punching wide and wild like before and is relentless. If the old Keith Version shows up, the one who is careless and punches so wide, I think Manny Knock or stopped him very soon. That version of Keith has no business against Manny basing from their recent match.

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      #32
      Originally posted by spenz
      I don't think there would be a lot of complaints if Manny went to number one, he has a legitimate reason to be so after beating Thurman who has the greatest welterweight resume out there beside Pac and also still undefeated, but it is what it is, Ring Magazine must have a different criteria of ranking than TBRB and others as well.

      I think the main reason for Ring Magazine is eye test. They believe Manny can't beat Crawford and Errol, they already pre-judged him. TBRB went to the more objective route, they believe Khan is too delusional to be a good win and Mikey Garcia is obviously not a true Welterweight who just went up 2 weight division and the rest of Manny, Crawford and Errol's competition is something to complain about.

      There was no really impressive competition for the 3 of them other than Keith Thurman who is coming in his greatest physical shape ever, Keith's physic is so transformed that even Danny Garcia was so shook proclaiming him the winner of the fight in advance. Contrary to popular belief, I believe this is also the very best version of Keith Thurman, this Keith is measured, not punching wide and wild like before and is relentless. If the old Keith Version shows up, the one who is careless and punches so wide, I think Manny Knock or stopped him very soon. That version of Keith has no business against Manny basing from their recent match.
      I'm curious to see how this version of Thurman does in rematches against Danny Garcia or Shawn Porter.

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        #33
        Originally posted by South Champion
        I'm curious to see how this version of Thurman does in rematches against Danny Garcia or Shawn Porter.
        They will fight again for sure or at least of them. The abrupt plan of vacationing is now off the table since he lost. So I'm sure one of them can get it soon. Best possibility is porter again after he lose to Errol. We will soon find out.

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          #34
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          no, Floyd's win over Pac is much more historically significant

          and most Mayweather opponents were better than Thurman

          seriously, you silly pacstains go full-****** at the drop of a hat

          before that fight, if anybody had suggested that beating Thurman would somehow miraculously vault Pac over Mayweather..... they would have been ridiculed.... and yet, here you are
          Pac was jmm used goods so flo yd win over smaller Pac whilst fighting scared isn't as special as Pac s win over thurman at 40 something never done.
          Before fight it was generally accepted Pac beating thurman would make Pac even further ahead of Floyd than he already was in beating man Floyd ducked

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            #35
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            no, Floyd's win over Pac is much more historically significant

            and most Mayweather opponents were better than Thurman

            seriously, you silly pacstains go full-****** at the drop of a hat

            before that fight, if anybody had suggested that beating Thurman would somehow miraculously vault Pac over Mayweather..... they would have been ridiculed.... and yet, here you are
            You call them pacstains but you are far worse becuase you only care about undefeated records.

            Thurman is a better opponent Floyd would never fight him he fought Berto instead, and then McGregor to get 50 and 0 if Pac foguth McGregor you would **** on Pac and you know itjust admit you are biased dumb ass

            at least im fair, and unbiased I rip Pac hard, and have never ripped Floyd on here.

            But you have no clue you just hate Pacquiao, you have zero credibility on here, Crawford has a weak resume so does Spence, spence fought some no name mexicano in Dallas and then fights Mikey a blown up lightweight

            but for some reason you are good at picking apart a 5 foot 4 blown up Pacman and want to rip him

            you are basically crapping on Floyds biggest win, by downgrading Pacman and have no clue you are doing it. because you are not a boxing fan.

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              #36
              Hard to think that anyone is better P4P than the 40 yo who beat a prime, undefeated, naturally bigger welterweight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Pac was jmm used goods so flo yd win over smaller Pac whilst fighting scared isn't as special as Pac s win over thurman at 40 something never done.
                Before fight it was generally accepted Pac beating thurman would make Pac even further ahead of Floyd than he already was in beating man Floyd ducked


                hilarious

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hectari
                  You call them pacstains but you are far worse becuase you only care about undefeated records.

                  Thurman is a better opponent Floyd would never fight him he fought Berto instead, and then McGregor to get 50 and 0 if Pac foguth McGregor you would **** on Pac and you know itjust admit you are biased dumb ass

                  at least im fair, and unbiased I rip Pac hard, and have never ripped Floyd on here.

                  But you have no clue you just hate Pacquiao, you have zero credibility on here, Crawford has a weak resume so does Spence, spence fought some no name mexicano in Dallas and then fights Mikey a blown up lightweight

                  but for some reason you are good at picking apart a 5 foot 4 blown up Pacman and want to rip him

                  you are basically crapping on Floyds biggest win, by downgrading Pacman and have no clue you are doing it. because you are not a boxing fan.



                  you are full-of-it

                  being " fair and unbiased "..... means having a clue

                  stop with your "ABC-doe" bullshlt..... Thurman was a largely unproven mid-level welter who's only good win is scraping past Shawn Porter

                  FACT: at least 4x current welters would have beaten Thurman

                  I give Thurman NO CHANCE against Spence or Crawford, and I also think that Porter would beat this version of Thurman..... possibly even Garcia

                  there is NOTHING special about that win, other than Pac's age

                  that win is certainly NOT as good as 38yo Floyd shutting Pacquiao down..... or 36yo Floyd sweeping Canelo on the cards..... NOT EVEN CLOSE

                  you guys are going FULL-RET4RD..... AGAIN !!

                  It was just Thurman

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                    #39
                    this is how silly this discussion is.....

                    FACT: we all know not to put any stock in ABC titles

                    we all know this

                    we all know that NOW, there are 100+ current world " titles " at any point in time

                    we KNOW..... that they LITERALLY give those fkn things away

                    FACT: Thurman should have been stripped following 2 years of inactivity

                    FACT: Thurman was not one of the top 2x welterweights

                    FACT: if Thurman fought any mid-top welter before facing Pacquiao, he probably would have lost

                    FACT: Thurman was NOT a genuine welterweight champion, he was just a belt-holder

                    those facts prove that you lunatics will desperately grasp onto any straw to keep your silly argument afloat LMAO

                    it was just Thurman

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