Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Thurman Card Did $6.26M Gate From 11,346 Tickets Sold

[Tman500]

The sport is better off without Floyd. I saw almost all of Floyd's PPV's from Cotto onwards and there was rarely a memorable moment let alone a good fight (except for the Maidana fights).

I give him credit for being one of the greatest of our generation but definitely do not miss that guy.

Yeah, I payed for every one of his PPVs starting with De laHoya. Skipped his last real fight against Berto because I was so annoyed with the bust that was the Pac/May fight. Plunked money down again for the McGregor/May "exhibition and carry fight" because it was such a spectacle. Don't regret that, it was entertaining for what it was. Yeah, I have an appreciation for May's defensive genius, but no one can argue that it was entertaining to watch. Anyone who says they were on the edge of their seat watchin May is full of it. I actually used to pay in the hope he'd get caught and would get drawn into a real back and forth fight. Never happened. Even when Mosley cracked him twice, Floyd was so composed and then pitched a shutout the rest of the way.

[Bronx2245]

All kidding aside, they could totally market Pac/McGregor into a massive MASSIVE money fight. Conor could carry that promotion and say he would squash tiny Pac like a g****. The MMA fans would flock. Only problem with the calculus is Manny would get pissed and beat the living snot out of Conor on fight night and not carry him like Mayweather did and Conor knows this. Conor knew May wasn't going to blow him out right away and tic off the paying fans. Pac, Canelo, GGG and all other top fighters would just smoke him because they are fighters first, not marketers like Conor and Floyd are.

Nah B! Initially, when Floyd wouldn't do it, when Conor kept calling him out, and Skip Bayless was making Conor look like the favorite, Pacquiao and Canelo (Oscar too) all said they would do it! Conor wanted Floyd because Floyd is the real cash cow, and the others are far behind! Don't let GGG fool you either! He called Canelo a "businessman" for fighting Khan at 155, then fought Brook at 160! They're all the same, but Floyd is simply the best!

[Scipio2009]

the ppv numbers won't be released if they are bad! There's wasn't that much buzz for this fight I don't think they broke 500k. Pacquiao's drawing power has continually gone down since the fourth marquez fight.

This is purely on anecdote, but my usual sports bar had a strong crowd to it. Not packed like the Floyd cards or Cotto-Alvarez, but felt about as big as the Pacquiao-Bradley and the recent Canelo PPVs (smaller than Alvarez-Golovkin 1).

If I had to guess 500k-600k would seem reasonable.

[Scipio2009]

This is what Fat Boy Dan said about the Bradley live gate 3 years ago also at the MGM Grand calling 6.4M a terrible live gate. Thurman and Broner fights both at MGM Grand did worst.

Pacquiao-Bradley III bombs at gate

Apr 22, 2016
Dan Rafael ESPN Senior Writer

Top Rank promoter Bob Arum called the sales total for Manny Pacquiao-Timothy Bradley Jr. III "terrible" earlier this week and said he lost money on the fight because the April 9 HBO PPV bout generated only between 400,000 and 500,000 buys. The live gate at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas also was poor.

According to figures released by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the fight -- after which Pacquiao, a future Hall of Famer, announced his retirement -- sold just 13,046 tickets. That was not close to selling out an arena where Pacquiao had packed in fans many times before.

The ticket sales generated a gate of $6,411,584, the worst of the trilogy with Bradley and Pacquiao's weakest gate since he became a major star.

Pacquiao-Bradley I generated a gate of $8,963,180 in 2012 and the second fight gate was $7,865,100 in 2014.

Pacquiao was still supposed to be a superstar, remember? The calculus has changed.

Pacquiao got $10m, Thurman got $2.5m, the undercard combined for another $2m, the cost to rent the venue, marketing the event, etc. Add it up.

Just over $6m in ticket revenues, Coppinger is pegging the initial PPV number at 500k homes for basically $20m in PPV revenue, ITV Box Office carried the Pacquiao fight in the UK (while delivering a 6-fight show; was competing against the Whyte card though), event sponsors (which were all over), and the international TV markets.

Pacquiao got his guarantee covered, everyone else got paid, the event covered costs, and there was likely even upside to divvy up on the event if the reported numbers hold.

Context is a beautiful thing

[The Big Dunn]

Other than Canelo or a big hwt fight between any 2 of wilder, Ruiz or AJ, can anyone else draw as many fans ?

[Scipio2009]

Considering his age Pac is still doing pretty decent. It might have the odd bright point but lets face it, in the age of HQ illegal streams PPV is on a long slow death march, the internet is like Flyod, it just doesn't lose.

As long as the PPV undergirds social gatherings, it will never die. And frankly, no one throwing a party with family and friends is going to risk being embarrassed on the side chance that a stream goes bad or that the illegal stream gets found and pulled just as the big fights are happening.

The legal streaming option (without risk of getting pulled) is now entrenched and will stand as a supplement to the traditional PPV path, but don't kid yourself.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Nah B! Initially, when Floyd wouldn't do it, when Conor kept calling him out, and Skip Bayless was making Conor look like the favorite, Pacquiao and Canelo (Oscar too) all said they would do it! Conor wanted Floyd because Floyd is the real cash cow, and the others are far behind! Don't let GGG fool you either! He called Canelo a "businessman" for fighting Khan at 155, then fought Brook at 160! They're all the same, but Floyd is simply the best!

silly.. conor wanted floyd because that was the easiest and safest payday!!! conor would get murked against pac and nelo. dont front.

[Bronx2245]

silly.. conor wanted floyd because that was the easiest and safest payday!!! conor would get murked against pac and nelo. dont front.

Conor got murked anyway, but he got paid more than he would for that azz whooping, because he was fighting Floyd! He was fighting the guy that already beat both Pac and Canelo!

[IceTrayDaGang]

Conor got murked anyway, but he got paid more than he would for that azz whooping, because he was fighting Floyd!

stop it. if pac or canelo would have fought conor at that time (when his name was still BIG) they would have ALL made around the same, +/- a few mills.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Conor got murked anyway, but he got paid more than he would for that azz whooping, because he was fighting Floyd! He was fighting the guy that already beat both Pac and Canelo!

what difference does that make??? if conor would have fought pac or canelo instead of floyd, they would make around the same! +/- a few mills. in fact, the fight might even be bigger based of their style match ups! lol!