So did VADA really miss a fking DBOL positive?

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  • Redd Foxx
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    #11
    Originally posted by KTFOKING
    Of course not, but also not all of VADA's tests have come back yet.

    Still a pretty damn big miss for them if the tests come back negative.

    And why did VADA only have "minimal" testing? They were contracted to administer the testing in this fight. Is it in their contract that they can only test a certain amount of times? I mean what good does that do? VADA has some explaining to do here.
    They don't dictate what the testing is. They do what they are paid to do. They don't decide if it's going to be minimal or extensive. That's up to the people that are paying them. VADA isn't a lab either. They're simply a separate entity that coordinates testing.

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    • Randall Cunning
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      #12
      Originally posted by BoloShot
      Year round or its worthless. I thought I made that clear. Hearn is a lying snake too, take everything he says with a serving spoonful of salt.
      VADA year round is ridiculously underfunded, $10k a month Hauser says, works out at $40 for each fighter. Until theyre funded properly its pretty much pointless.

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      • 4truth
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        #13
        When did they last take a sample and how long are this steroid's metabolites detectable in your system?

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        • Redd Foxx
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          #14
          Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
          Do we have any idea what the detection window would be on a the****utic level dose - or presumably course - of Dianabol... should in theory be possible to backtrack if we ever get dates from VADA on when they carried out testing.

          Way I'm built and the way I view this sport I'm pretty much gonna assume guilt if someone pops dirty but if DBOL really is that common I'm gonna take a wild stab and guess that Whyte's gonna go with a contamination excuse. Guess we're gonna end up with the pretty merry-go-round of folk entrenching themselves in one position or another without definitive proof like we did with the Canelo situation.
          That's exactly what Whyte did the last time he failed a drug test.

          There have been situations in the past where Dbol was laced in bodybuilding supplements but it's no longer necessary as there's a lot of alterations of Dbol that metabolize the same but are chemically different enough to be legal. It's been that way for around 20 years..

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            #15
            Originally posted by BoloShot
            Year round or its worthless. I thought I made that clear. Hearn is a lying snake too, take everything he says with a serving spoonful of salt.
            Is that a table spoon or teaspoon? Either way that's a lot of salt to a pinch.

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              #16
              DBOL is usually taken for 4-6 weeks mulitple times a day in pill form. It's in and out in 3-5 hours that's why people spread it out during the day.

              And you need a post cycle therapy to restore your testosterone and liver function to normal. Not sure if any PCT stuff OTC is banned by WADA or whoever the fk regulates the testing protocols.

              So if this dude was enrolled in the VADA WBC **** he wasn't very worried about them showing up for at least 4-8 weeks if he did a full cycle

              Tells you all you need to know about that WBC garbage. They never test anyone. I remeber Julian William's guy saying they never tested them the whole time leading up to Charlo I think. Or maybe once in a year that he was in the program.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                VADA year round is ridiculously underfunded, $10k a month Hauser says, works out at $40 for each fighter. Until theyre funded properly its pretty much pointless.
                That's why UKAD testing is better just the process of stopping fights and dragging out the cases is just dumb ,Furys win over Klitchko and Hammer are in reality unofficial No contests . Don't know the exact situation here but I have a feeling Whyte who knowinly paid for extra testing must have an angle ,he cant be that ****** and two separate testing agencies are going to muddle this up where one cleared him the other didn't.

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                • SplitSecond
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                  VADA year round is ridiculously underfunded, $10k a month Hauser says, works out at $40 for each fighter. Until theyre funded properly its pretty much pointless.
                  Is that vada year round or cbp? You saying $40 per fighter makes me think you mean the cbp.

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                  • thesmokingman
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond
                    Is that vada year round or cbp? You saying $40 per fighter makes me think you mean the cbp.
                    That's CBP. It just looks good on paper.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                      Do we have any idea what the detection window would be on a the****utic level dose - or presumably course - of Dianabol... should in theory be possible to backtrack if we ever get dates from VADA on when they carried out testing.

                      Way I'm built and the way I view this sport I'm pretty much gonna assume guilt if someone pops dirty but if DBOL really is that common I'm gonna take a wild stab and guess that Whyte's gonna go with a contamination excuse. Guess we're gonna end up with the pretty merry-go-round of folk entrenching themselves in one position or another without definitive proof like we did with the Canelo situation.
                      I've said it before in another thread but dbol is used literally for a kickstarter for cycles and has been a staple for years. It's not like clen used to lean out animals cheaply, and isn't some magical liquid you drink. It's a pill or injection so unless he claims someone switched his advil with tiny little dbol pills and "he didn't know" there's no way you couldn't. Also dbol isn't hard to get but really not a single steroid is you can type it in google lol. You can pick up tren test dbol in almost any gym as they're the most widely used... but they're not really cross contaminable as they're not used in foods anymore (well tren isn't anymore as I think it was inhumane or something).

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