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  • _Rexy_
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    #201
    Originally posted by EnglishOxide
    The other guy doesn't need to know in this situation.

    UKAD, VADA and the BBBoC cleared Dillian Whyte to fight and tested him on the day of the fight. If they decided he was clean why do they need to tell Rivas anything?

    If something bad happened to Rivas and it turns out Whyte was dirty (which has not been definitively proven yet) then it would be UKAD/VADA/BBBoC who are liable. Not Whyte and not Matchroom.
    The other guy doesn’t need to know that his opponent tested positive for PED’s?

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    • EnglishOxide
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      #202
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      The other guy doesn’t need to know that his opponent tested positive for PED’s?
      No because he didn't test positive. Until the B sample is tested you are not guilty. That's how it works.

      Let me say this again.

      VADA cleared him to fight. Whyte passed their tests and they tested him on the day of the fight too. Why would they clear him to fight if he tested positive?

      UKAD, VADA and BBBoC ALL decided Whyte was clean to fight Rivas. Therefore there is no need to inform Rivas of anything.

      It's in black and white, take it up with those authorities if you have a problem with it.

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        #203
        Originally posted by EnglishOxide
        No because he didn't test positive. Until the B sample is tested you are not guilty. That's how it works.

        Let me say this again.

        VADA cleared him to fight. Whyte passed their tests and they tested him on the day of the fight too. Why would they clear him to fight if he tested positive?

        UKAD, VADA and BBBoC ALL decided Whyte was clean to fight Rivas. Therefore there is no need to inform Rivas of anything.

        It's in black and white, take it up with those authorities if you have a problem with it.
        Maybe over there, if he pissed hot on the A side, he failed the test. When Canelo pissed hot, Saunders, etc. They failed the test and we found out immediately and then waited on the B sample.

        They didn’t just let the fight happen claiming “well, it’s only a fail if the B test fails”

        How often has a B test ever exonerated anyone?

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        • thesmokingman
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          #204
          Originally posted by EnglishOxide
          No because he didn't test positive. Until the B sample is tested you are not guilty. That's how it works.
          That is wrong. Or more like that is UKAD/BBBoC ****ed up and terrible policy/protocol. B sample testing doesn't prove anything towards innocence, its a chain of custody dispute. That is all it is. UKAD is using it as a final litmus test. No one ever will get a B sample different than the A sample... well its pretty fkn rare to get a case of a break in chain of custody. I think I've only seen one case in like 30 years of watching sport with anti doping.

          Seriously, UKAD is doing this ass backwards!

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            #205
            Originally posted by thesmokingman
            That is wrong. Or more like that is UKAD/BBBoC ****ed up and terrible policy/protocol. B sample testing doesn't prove anything towards innocence, its a chain of custody dispute. That is all it is. UKAD is using it as a final litmus test. No one ever will get a B sample different than the A sample... well its pretty fkn rare to get a case of a break in chain of custody. I think I've only seen one case in like 30 years of watching sport with anti doping.

            Seriously, UKAD is doing this ass backwards!
            B test is basically just if the A sample was mislabeled or some ****, samples got swapped. A and B are taken at the same time.

            I can’t think of any time where someone has gotten off with a clean B sample

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            • thesmokingman
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              #206
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              B test is basically just if the A sample was mislabeled or some ****, samples got swapped. A and B are taken at the same time.

              I can’t think of any time where someone has gotten off with a clean B sample
              There's been cases of clean B samples but its really really rare.

              At one point WADA talked about killing off B sample collection even... lol.

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                #207
                Originally posted by thesmokingman
                There's been cases of clean B samples but its really really rare.

                At one point WADA talked about killing off B sample collection even... lol.

                https://www.thestar.com/sports/olymp..._director.html
                Damn he’s right about one sample being enough to send someone to jail. I didn’t even think of that.

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                  If you're doing Dbol, a straight up bodybuilding oral steroid, the same one Arnold said he took, then you're not even trying.

                  It's not like this is an injury recovery drug. This is the cheapest and most common steroid you can get.
                  My thoughts exactly. For a guy who invests a lot of time and money into strength and conditioning, Dbol is such a weird choice.

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_
                    The other guy doesn’t need to know that his opponent tested positive for PED’s?
                    I just read his comment also and

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                    • Ray*
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
                      The other guy doesn't need to know in this situation.

                      UKAD, VADA and the BBBoC cleared Dillian Whyte to fight and tested him on the day of the fight. If they decided he was clean why do they need to tell Rivas anything?

                      If something bad happened to Rivas and it turns out Whyte was dirty (which has not been definitively proven yet) then it would be UKAD/VADA/BBBoC who are liable. Not Whyte and not Matchroom.
                      Who told you that VADA cleared Whyte? Did VADA even know? if VADA knew they would have informed the WBC thus them not sanctioning the fight.

                      The fact that Team Rivas didn't know should tell you that VADA didn't know about Whyte's failed PED test.

                      My question is if UKAD caught Whyte what was VADA doing? Shouldn't they too have caught whyte of those same drugs?

                      Either way i hope he gets ran out of boxing, Hearn should show his face again especially for what he said previously about drug cheats and harming their opponents.

                      The least they could do was inform Team Rivas and work something out...SMDH!

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