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  • MDPopescu
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    #261
    Originally posted by kafkod
    Of course Rivas' team think differently - they lost the fucking fight and they are advised by Al Haymon!

    Whyte was cleared to fight by VADA, UKAD, and the BBBoC, who were the governing body in charge of the fight. Rivas would have had no contractual grounds for pulling out even if he'd wanted to.

    Imo, UKAD and the BBBoC should change the way they react to issues after UKAD tests and make it part of their procedure to inform both sides if there is any problem at all, no matter how trivial they think it is.

    But the fact is that as their rules stand now, they don't do that, and it isn't the promoter's job or responsibility to do it for them.
    ... man, cool down... Whyte just lost his case of fighting Wilder soon... Whyte is just "out"... ... That's it...

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    • P4P Forever
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      #262
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      You’re one of the rational, Ray. Don’t think I haven’t noticed lol.

      But it seems you’re part of a minority on here at least.
      This is way more then a Whyte failing a drug test. Lots of fighters have been getting killed in the ring or suffering server damage more recently. Lets say a fighter dies cuz of a beating he takes in a prize fight, especially if it's VADA tested and the fighter that killed him comes up positive for a ban drug. Does that become a homicide case?

      Ill look into this mess more but doesn't it seem VADA had the responsibility to inform YMG Rivara's Promoter if not the fighter himself directly???

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      • P4P Forever
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        #263
        Santillán is the second fighter to died in less than a week due to serious in-ring injuries. Russian junior welterweight Maxim Dadashev died two days ago because of injuries suffered in his fight against undefeated Puerto Rican Subriel Matias, in what was an IBF eliminator that took place last Friday.

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          #264
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Of course Rivas' team think differently - they lost the fucking fight and they are advised by Al Haymon!

          Whyte was cleared to fight by VADA, UKAD, and the BBBoC, who were the governing body in charge of the fight. Rivas would have had no contractual grounds for pulling out even if he'd wanted to.

          Imo, UKAD and the BBBoC should change the way they react to issues after UKAD tests and make it part of their procedure to inform both sides if there is any problem at all, no matter how trivial they think it is.

          But the fact is that as their rules stand now, they don't do that, and it isn't the promoter's job or responsibility to do it for them.
          Since when did VADA, UKAD, WADA, ABCD, ETC. Start “clearing” people? I thought they just tested and reported?

          Didn’t Eddie actually make a point of this a few months ago? On how these agencies don’t clear people to fight?

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            #265
            Originally posted by Ray*
            Doesn’t matter what they would do to him, he signed the contract. And no he would not make more money against Wilder or Fury. As it stands he would make 5-7 times what he would make against AJ than he would make against anyone else. And whether he fights on a Matchroom/Top Rank or PBC card he would be the one getting robbed against Joshua/Fury or Wilder.

            I understand all of the Hearn stuff and I agree but I don’t trust Arum nor Haymon/Finkel neither. So all of those stuffs that you listed applies to Ruiz wherever he goes, he might as well get paid 5-7 times more than he would get with all his worries.
            I don't think Ruiz gets the short sale after whooping Joshua! I don't trust Bob Arum at all, but I don't think he would've kept those test results a secret!

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              #266
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Of course Rivas' team think differently - they lost the fucking fight and they are advised by Al Haymon!

              Whyte was cleared to fight by VADA, UKAD, and the BBBoC, who were the governing body in charge of the fight. Rivas would have had no contractual grounds for pulling out even if he'd wanted to.

              Imo, UKAD and the BBBoC should change the way they react to issues after UKAD tests and make it part of their procedure to inform both sides if there is any problem at all, no matter how trivial they think it is.

              But the fact is that as their rules stand now, they don't do that, and it isn't the promoter's job or responsibility to do it for them.
              First of all, Rivas is NOT advised by Al Haymon:

              Oscar Rivas Was Close To Top Rank Deal When Whyte Offer Came

              After his big victory earlier this year, heavyweight contender Oscar Rivas became a very wanted man. Rivas (26-0, 18 KOs) scored a knockout win over highly rated veteran Bryant Jennings back in January in the main event of a Top Rank card from the Turning Stone Casino in New York, and the contest was showcased on ESPN.


              Yvon Michel has been working much closer with Bob Arum as of late!

              Secondly, VADA, UKAD, do "testing," they don't "clear" anyone! BBB of C let the promoter know, who was Eddie Hearn! Eddie decided that the fight would go on, and decided NOT to inform Rivas' team...FOUL!

              Lastly, you look desperate and foolish making these arguments! You would have a whole different outlook if Wilder and Haymon had done this to Joshua in the U.S.! Please stop with the nonsense...ASAP!

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                #267
                Originally posted by P4P Forever
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                Originally Posted by kafkod View Post
                Matchroom had to be informed because they are Whyte's promoter and the lead promoter of the show. Like Hearn just said in an interview, UKAD interviewed Dillian and looked at information from his VADA tests, which had all come up clean. They then decided that he was clean and cleared him to fight, so there would have been no point telling Rivas about it..



                Bronx2245 Don't waste your time with kafkod he's a Matchroom employee. He owned by Hearn. He's simply a Matchroom cheerleader that promotes anything and everything Matchroom does regardless. He'd sell his mom out for Hearn. He's not even a boxing fan, just a mouth piece for everything Hearn. This is the 2nd time now as Whyte was ban for 2 years back in 2012!!!! Hello, so this is nothing new. Also this is 2 different drugs. There is a 0 tolerance for the drugs found in his system so there is no excuse at all. None. Let kafkod back a cheat hes a total loser end of story.
                I should know better, but I just can't take the hypocrisy! Imagine if VADA had contacted Finkel, to tell him about Wilder's failed "A" sample, and he decided not to inform Hearn, and Wilder went on to beat Whyte? He would be livid!

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                  #268
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  First of all, Rivas is NOT advised by Al Haymon:

                  Oscar Rivas Was Close To Top Rank Deal When Whyte Offer Came

                  After his big victory earlier this year, heavyweight contender Oscar Rivas became a very wanted man. Rivas (26-0, 18 KOs) scored a knockout win over highly rated veteran Bryant Jennings back in January in the main event of a Top Rank card from the Turning Stone Casino in New York, and the contest was showcased on ESPN.


                  Yvon Michel has been working much closer with Bob Arum as of late!

                  Secondly, VADA, UKAD, do "testing," they don't "clear" anyone! BBB of C let the promoter know, who was Eddie Hearn! Eddie decided that the fight would go on, and decided NOT to inform Rivas' team...FOUL!

                  Lastly, you look desperate and foolish making these arguments! You would have a whole different outlook if Wilder and Haymon had done this to Joshua in the U.S.! Please stop with the nonsense...ASAP!
                  Let's pull up the wilder ig post...all you haters for wilder stating facts got destroyed... Go take your L and come back with a new God.

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                    #269
                    LOL at you clowns fighting tooth n nail to save your cheats, this is pathetic

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                    • kafkod
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                      #270
                      Originally posted by MDPopescu
                      ... man, cool down... Whyte just lost his case of fighting Wilder soon... Whyte is just "out"... ... That's it...
                      Really?

                      Just like Luis Ortiz lost his chance of fighting Wilder and was "out" after failing a VADA test ... before being cleared after an investigation?

                      What if Whyte is cleared after an investigation, like Ortiz was?

                      Will he still be "out" ... simply because he is promoted by Matchroom, not PBC?

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