Headgear is coming to pro boxing

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  • Mushashi
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    #11
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    THIS.

    Getting hit in the head is the problem not how much cushion you have. In fact the science seems to say your brain gets shaken more with a thing on your head that makes you an easier target to hit.

    I'm fast forwarding 30-50 years & I predict everyone will be boxing in VR worlds & only a fighters avatar will be harmed.

    I think many sports will be doing that cuz Esports is gonna take over the entertainment world anyway. These 3B Asian people already love that sh^t & its becoming bigger in the US by the day. We got 2 arenas for esports in Vegas already. Every big city will have one eventually.
    That's a compelling point about VR and esports and the general population lack of engagement with physical activity and focus on technology and gaming.

    But you have to remember that gaming and esports are a substitute for real life. The real deal will always be superior they're just playing but you don't play combat sports.

    And it's twisted how wearing protective heard gear does more damage than without. I can see them using that as a selling point too

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    • ShaneMosleySr
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      #12
      You’re mistaken, headgear doesn’t make boxing more dangerous and there isn’t any evidence to suggest that.

      They removed headgear because there isn’t any evidence that it prevents concussions.

      FWIW, the association of ringside physicians disagreed with the decision to remove headgear from amateur boxing citing safety concerns.

      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
      They got rid of it for the ammys because research suggests it's probably more dangerous. Why would they introduce it to the pros?

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      • strykr619
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        #13
        Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
        They got rid of it for the ammys because research suggests it's probably more dangerous. Why would they introduce it to the pros?
        Exactly, it actually gives a false sense of safety and induces more headshot.

        This is the same argument why the NFL needs to go back to soft helmets that are their just to prevent cuts etc. Hard shell helms invite more head collisions .

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          No it isn't. It would kill pro boxing so it isn't coming. There has never been head gear in the entire history of pro boxing and fans will not accept it. They might as well just outlaw boxing. If anything they are getting less strict with safety rules. They allow 4 ounce gloves in MMA and some places allow bare knuckle boxing.

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          • ShaneMosleySr
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            #15
            We just watched a guy get beaten to death on ESPN. We’re trending towards headgear. It’ll probably happen around the time tackle football is changed to two hand touch but it’s coming

            Originally posted by boliodogs
            No it isn't. It would kill pro boxing so it isn't coming. There has never been head gear in the entire history of pro boxing and fans will not accept it. They might as well just outlaw boxing. If anything they are getting less strict with safety rules. They allow 4 ounce gloves in MMA and some places allow bare knuckle boxing.

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            • Dean_Razorback
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              #16
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              THIS.

              Getting hit in the head is the problem not how much cushion you have. In fact the science seems to say your brain gets shaken more with a thing on your head that makes you an easier target to hit.

              I'm fast forwarding 30-50 years & I predict everyone will be boxing in VR worlds & only a fighters avatar will be harmed.

              I think many sports will be doing that cuz Esports is gonna take over the entertainment world anyway. These 3B Asian people already love that sh^t & its becoming bigger in the US by the day. We got 2 arenas for esports in Vegas already. Every big city will have one eventually.
              i hope you are wrong about Esports, that would suck. but is true that it's becoming really popular.

              on topic. maybe they'll introduce bigger gloves, or more padded gloves. something like that.

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #17
                Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                You’re mistaken, headgear doesn’t make boxing more dangerous and there isn’t any evidence to suggest that.

                They removed headgear because there isn’t any evidence that it prevents concussions.

                FWIW, the association of ringside physicians disagreed with the decision to remove headgear from amateur boxing citing safety concerns.
                I agree it ain't exactly that straightforward - my use of the term 'more dangerous' probably goes beyond what the evidence can conclusively prove, but AIBA research did find that removing headgear led to fewer stoppages due to head blows (though more cuts). The point being that firstly there's no compelling evidence that I'm aware of that headgear improves safety and there is evdence that it leads to fighters getting hit more often, yet doesn't protect from trauma. Point being there's no reason to think that the pro sport would have any compelling reason to introduce headgear.

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                • HandsofIron
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                  #18
                  No, the referees will be given more power and influence.

                  From now on, if the referees see even a hint of something wrong or off with a fighter during a fight, they'll stop it immediately; they'll stop the fight regardless of the fighter, the corner, the audience/fans or pundit's protests.

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                  • A.K
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                    #19
                    I can tell you never actually boxed headgear is to prevent cuts it doesn’t protect your brain lol.. ontop of that it’s the most annoying thing in the world makes your face all hot sweaty and will give you pimples.

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                    • Eff Pandas
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mushashi
                      That's a compelling point about VR and esports and the general population lack of engagement with physical activity and focus on technology and gaming.

                      But you have to remember that gaming and esports are a substitute for real life. The real deal will always be superior they're just playing but you don't play combat sports.
                      Right now thats how it is. It won't always be that way.

                      But when VR really gets running its gonna be amazingly real. And most importantly for boxing 100% safe. No one will ever die VR boxing. No more brain surgery's.

                      And you can make it as brutal as any video game where boxers avatars fight to the death. No ref needed. No scoring. No fouls. So you could argue it'll satisfy fans bloodlust even more than real boxing cuz every fight would be conclusive. And you could have giant tournaments in a weekend vs see a guy fight every 6-9 months like things work now.

                      I suspect they'll be some battle between "fake" boxing & "real" boxing along the way cuz it won't just be a easy flip from one to the othe, but with how active it'll be & safe "fake" boxing will be where most intelligent boxers will start steering to more & more.

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