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FFS Let's END This: Would PAC have beaten Thurman if there was VADA Testing?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by creekrat77 View Post
    People overlook Pacquiao's natural physicality. He has massive calves. H3ll his calves would be big on cruiserweights let alone on a featherweight dimensioned body. Pac has great legs and can keep doing what he's doing in his 40s because of that.
    Side note: Steroids or not, you can't body build calves like that. It's genetics.

    I also heard something before on here that stuck with me. Pac has the "cave man" genetics. I swear the guy is just built really heavy. Bone density and all. Similar to the Mongol genetics of Golovkin. He's very durable.
    Funny you mention Golovkin. When was VADA testing officially announced for GGG Rolls? How many days to the fight?

    and this:

    BoxingScene.com has learned that participants for the biggest boxing event of 2019 to date will be subject to testing standards limited to that provided by Nevada State Athletic Commission. Original plans to secure the services of Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) were called off for reasons that haven’t yet been made clear—and too late in the game to rectify with just four weeks to go before fight night.

    VADA representatives declined further comment beyond confirming that they are not involved in any aspect of the July 20 card. - Jake Donovan

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    • #12
      Bottom line, random blood testing was performed. Luis Nery was tested as well.
      Last edited by richardt; 07-22-2019, 12:01 PM.

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      • #13
        Thurman couldn't win that fight if he had an assault rifle. What the f**k was a supplement going to do?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by richardt View Post
          Bottom line, random blood testing was performed.
          In both visits, standard doping procedures via urine samples were conducted under VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) style. Gibbons did not mention anything about blood testing.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
            Thurman couldn't win that fight if he had an assault rifle. What the f**k was a supplement going to do?
            Thurman is about close to 160lbs on Fight night, but drains 13lbs of water the day before, weigh in. What's he doing up at 3AM partying in the Casino prepping for his biggest fight? Fight was a farce

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            • #16
              Originally posted by NeloVsGGG-8 View Post
              In both visits, standard doping procedures via urine samples were conducted under VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) style. Gibbons did not mention anything about blood testing.
              Pac is enrolled in VADA which means they can show up any time during the year, not just during a fight period. This does not mean they are testing him throughout the training, but that they can test him anytime. And that means that if you think someone could show up any time to test you, you are not going to be taking PEDS if you have any sense, and that is assuming you would want to take PEDS to begin with which was also never proven. http://vada-testing.org/congratulati...-vada-testing/

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              • #17
                Originally posted by richardt View Post
                Pac is enrolled in VADA which means they can show up any time during the year, not just during a fight period. This does not mean they are testing him throughout the training, but that they can test him anytime. And that means that if you think someone could show up any time to test you, you are not going to be taking PEDS if you have any sense, and that is assuming you would want to take PEDS to begin with which was also never proven. http://vada-testing.org/congratulati...-vada-testing/

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                • #18
                  Easy.

                  Pacquiao just has better skills

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by NeloVsGGG-8 View Post
                    If VADA is assigned to a fight and its participants, they can test before and after a fight a number of times. If a fighter is enrolled in VADA, they may not be assigned to a fight and the participants, but they can still do random testing throughout the year, hence, enrollment. If someone is going to take PEDS, they would have to have no sense taking PEDS knowing that they can be tested any time during the year, if enrolled. Pac is enrolled which means any time of year, and on top of that, he had random testing performed by NCSA throughout the time frame of the Thurman fight.
                    Last edited by richardt; 07-22-2019, 12:30 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by richardt View Post
                      If VADA is assigned to a fight and its participants, they can test before and after a fight a number of times. If a fighter is enrolled in VADA, they may not be assigned to a fight and the participants, but they can still do random testing throughout the year, hence, enrollment. If someone is going to take PEDS, they would have to have no sense taking PEDS knowing that they can be tested any time during the year, if enrolled. Pac is enrolled which means any time of year, and on top of that, he had random testing performed by NCSA throughout the time frame of the Thurman fight.
                      that doesn't make any sense. if you commute one way to work that's efficient and gets you there on time, would you change a different route that's less efficient?

                      As Robbie Barrett said, if Pac has done VADA before, why would Team Pacquiao not be consistent for the experts whom already have him ''enrolled?''

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