Looking back now at - Mayweather vs Pac 2015

[taino78]

Fact of the matter is Manny lost. Him being so called injured and didnt say anything for the sake of the fans was his problem and not Floyd's. Mayweather came out and did what he had to do and that was win. Guys on here wanna talk ducking who remembers way back in 2011. Floyd simply asked to take a test and lets fight. Manny: "I'm afraid of needles." That was the most laughable excuse ever because for him to say that and have tattoos really looked suspect.

[daggum]

Fact of the matter is Manny lost. Him being so called injured and didnt say anything for the sake of the fans was his problem and not Floyd's. Mayweather came out and did what he had to do and that was win. Guys on here wanna talk ducking who remembers was back in 2011. Floyd simply asked to take a test and lets fight. Manny: "I'm afraid of needles." That was the most laughable excuse ever because for him to say that and have tattoos really looked suspect.

he said something to the commision/drug testing agency but was denied relief. meanwhile floyd was given TUE's for things he shouldnt have been allowed to do. oh yeah and pac still lande the much better punches so not sure how that equals a schooing but tribalism is a real thing so pretty sure thats how

[travestyny]

Mayweather ducked a Prime Pacquiao.

That's not what Freddie Roach said

[The Big Dunn]

Manny's win has absolutely zero relation with Mayweather or any of his accomplishments. Floyd is retired, has only had 2 sideshow type fights since his formal boxing retirement against Berto, and has nothing to with Manny's career since their dull fight came and went 4 years ago.

Manny has kept on keeping on and has continued to establish his own legacy and enrichening his history. His accomplishment last night is outstanding, his resume is long and storied, he was and has always been a blood and guts warrior, and the fact that he scratched a major name in the WW division off the list at 40 is inspiring.

So although Floyd has a win over Pacman, that win doesnt give Floyd any right over Manny's hard earned accolades.

Floyd’s accolades are just as hard earned. Let’s not forget that.

[travestyny]

he said something to the commision/drug testing agency but was denied relief.

That's not true. The commission wasn't told a thing. They stopped his doctor in the act of trying to shoot him up with toradol.

And he also didn't tell the testing agency anything. He asked them if toradol use was illegal.

The NSAC doctors interviewed Pac's surgeon in the dressing room and examined Manny, determining that there was no proof of an injury and the surgeon stated himself that Pac was at full strength going into the fight and did NOT need the shot.

[daggum]

That's not what Freddie Roach said

he said maybe it was our fault. do you know what the word maybe means? also if you actually look at the sequence of events you could see that the testing was never the issue because the fight still didnt happen when it was agreed to. it was just a bluff to buy time. we have proof of that because the fight didnt happen after floyd got his testing so its absurd to pretend they would have fought in 2010. floyd just would have changed the money demands like he did after manny agreed to testing. he did the same thing when winky agreed to fight him. big talk. no action.

[travestyny]

he said maybe it was our fault. do you know what the word maybe means? also if you actually look at the sequence of events you could see that the testing was never the issue because the fight still didnt happen when it was agreed to. it was just a bluff to buy time. we have proof of that because the fight didnt happen after floyd got his testing so its absurd to pretend they would have fought in 2010. floyd just would have changed the money demands like he did after manny agreed to testing. he did the same thing when winky agreed to fight him. big talk. no action.

lol. Do you want to read into that maybe a little more, buddy

Maybe Roach realizes that claiming to need 24 days to recover from giving less than 2 tbsps of blood is a lame excuse.


And that's simply false information that you're spewing. First of all, the point is that if Manny didn't claim to need a whopping 24 days of recovery time, the fight would have happened.

Second, there was no negotiation again until the fight was finally made. When Mayweather was begging Pac for the fight before going to prison, Arum openly stated that Pac preferred Marquez and that the Mayweather fight would always be there, so they refused to negotiate. And then Pac was knocked into Bolivian which pushed back the fight taking place yet again.

[The Big Dunn]

he said maybe it was our fault. do you know what the word maybe means? also if you actually look at the sequence of events you could see that the testing was never the issue because the fight still didnt happen when it was agreed to. it was just a bluff to buy time. we have proof of that because the fight didnt happen after floyd got his testing so its absurd to pretend they would have fought in 2010. floyd just would have changed the money demands like he did after manny agreed to testing. he did the same thing when winky agreed to fight him. big talk. no action.

What about right before Floyd went to jail? I know guys like you pretend this never happened but Manny was ok to fight when it looked like Floyd was going to jail.

Soon as Nevada delayed the start date so he could fight in May, manny suddenly got the stitches ( for a cut from 4 months earlier that didn’t need stitches) from Arum’s future son in law and he avoided the fight.

Roach also admitted they delayed the fight.

So it’s cool to hate Floyd but just don’t leave this part out.

[taino78]

he said something to the commision/drug testing agency but was denied relief. meanwhile floyd was given TUE's for things he shouldnt have been allowed to do. oh yeah and pac still lande the much better punches so not sure how that equals a schooing but tribalism is a real thing so pretty sure thats how

So if he really said something to the commision the fight would've been postponed. Theres no relief if your shoulder is torn. And you wouldn't be throwing punches the way he was if it was torn. Bs excuses

[Aztekkas]

Floyd’s accolades are just as hard earned. Let’s not forget that.

Of course they are. All I'm saying is each fighter had to endure their own trials and tribulations in order to reach their legendary status.