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  • Originally posted by .WesternChamp. View Post
    i brought up bradley, broner and lucas for the same reason why i brought up ortiz, maidana, berto!!! them fools are in the same category! so throw in corrales, pac still has the better resume when you look at morales, barrera, marquez. them 3 are automatic ATG status.
    Morales, Barrera and JMM. Now are we going to have an honest conversation about those 3 or a slanted one where you pretend you don't know the context of each fight?

    Barerra-IMO great wins. Now if you are going to use the "BS manny fan" criteria used to evaluate Floyd's resume then I will apply that to Barrera.

    Morales-He LOST to Morales 1st at 130. Morales could barely make weight so he went to 135 the next fight, got obliterated by Raheem, then came down to 130 to rematch Manny. Manny beat him 2x after that. Morales was 2-7 after he fought Raheem. Manny deserves credit no doubt, but again are we going to be honest about the context or not?

    JMM-Manny was up 10-6 after round 1. JMM fought back for a draw. Manny should've won if not for a scoring error but JMM won more rounds than Manny in that fight.The 2nd and 3rd JMM fights-I had Manny winning 2nd fight but the media scores were majority JMM winning or a draw. 3rd fight, the media overwhelmingly had JMM winning, he got KO'd in the 4th fight.

    How do you give him automatic ATG status when in his 1st fights with Morales and JMM he lost to Morales and he was up so much after round 1 of the JMM 1st fight and then lost more rounds than he won?

    Shouldn't you have to win to be automatic ATG status?

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      Morales, Barrera and JMM. Now are we going to have an honest conversation about those 3 or a slanted one where you pretend you don't know the context of each fight?

      Barerra-IMO great wins. Now if you are going to use the "BS manny fan" criteria used to evaluate Floyd's resume then I will apply that to Barrera.

      Morales-He LOST to Morales 1st at 130. Morales could barely make weight so he went to 135 the next fight, got obliterated by Raheem, then came down to 130 to rematch Manny. Manny beat him 2x after that. Morales was 2-7 after he fought Raheem. Manny deserves credit no doubt, but again are we going to be honest about the context or not?

      JMM-Manny was up 10-6 after round 1. JMM fought back for a draw. Manny should've won if not for a scoring error but JMM won more rounds than Manny in that fight.The 2nd and 3rd JMM fights-I had Manny winning 2nd fight but the media scores were majority JMM winning or a draw. 3rd fight, the media overwhelmingly had JMM winning, he got KO'd in the 4th fight.

      How do you give him automatic ATG status when in his 1st fights with Morales and JMM he lost to Morales and he was up so much after round 1 of the JMM 1st fight and then lost more rounds than he won?

      Shouldn't you have to win to be automatic ATG status?

      dunn, please. it dont matter what you think of the fight, that's just your opinion. at the end of the day, does manny have a win over those 3 names??? geezus man! why does it always gotta be like this with you?

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      • Originally posted by .WesternChamp. View Post
        dunn, please. it dont matter what you think of the fight, that's just your opinion. at the end of the day, does manny have a win over those 3 names??? geezus man! why does it always gotta be like this with you?
        See what I mean? You never want to talk actual context. Manny has losses and wins over those names. Sorry dude but losses matter on a resume.

        I gave my opinion but I always go with the actual result, not my opinion of the fight.

        You attach automatic ATG status for wins yet will not penalize or factor in losses.

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          See what I mean? You never want to talk actual context. Manny has losses and wins over those names. Sorry dude but losses matter on a resume.

          I gave my opinion but I always go with the actual result, not my opinion of the fight.

          You attach automatic ATG status for wins yet will not penalize or factor in losses.
          talk actual context???!! does manny have a win over those 3 names? yes or no??? it dont matter how the fight went, etc. that's just your opinion! at the end of the day when you look at pac's resume, it will show that he has a win over morales, barrera and marquez! geezus! !

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            https://www.boxingscene.com/latest-1...debate--141138

            Rather, when the resumes and their contexts are lined up side by side, Mayweather has more check marks in his column. His armload of titles is a bit less broad than Pacquiao’s, but the sheer dominance of his performances against high-end opposition at similar weights from 130 to 154 pounds trumps the quantitative lighter-weight advantages of his Filipino nemesis.
            Stop trying g to be a salesman nobodies buying your ideas.
            Pac s got a stronger depth resume and his win over thurman is better than anything Floyd ever done. It's better than any WW boxer in over hundred years has done. That's all the context anyone needs know.

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            • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              See what I mean? You never want to talk actual context. Manny has losses and wins over those names. Sorry dude but losses matter on a resume.

              I gave my opinion but I always go with the actual result, not my opinion of the fight.

              You attach automatic ATG status for wins yet will not penalize or factor in losses.
              so if somehow there is a rematch between pac/thurman and keith ends up beating manny, it doesnt count anymore because manny had already beaten thurman right? smh!! so what's the point of even having rematches then???!!! geezus dunn!!

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              • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                Pacs always been above Floyd, more people in world think that then think Floyds was ever above Pac.
                Nobody is doing what Pac is doing at 40 so why isn't Pac no1? His resume was insane before beating Thurman.
                People want pac to do something impossible to be GOAT
                You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to hugh grant again.

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                • He didn't even need this win, he's already greater

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                  • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                    Stop trying g to be a salesman nobodies buying your ideas.
                    Pac s got a stronger depth resume and his win over thurman is better than anything Floyd ever done. It's better than any WW boxer in over hundred years has done. That's all the context anyone needs know.
                    lol Well said.

                    BigDunn goes down again..


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