As a Mayweather fan I have to say it.

[The Big Dunn]

im going to list all of floyd's opponents that i consider worth naming and i'll do the same for pac.

floyd -- castillo, judah, oscar, hatton, marquez, molsey, ortiz, cotto, canelo, maidana, pac, berto

manny -- morales, barrera, marquez (this right here alone already kill floyd's resume), oscar, hatton, cotto, margarito, molsey, bradley, floyd, lucas, broner, thurman.

so you see, pretty much fought the same opponents. the only difference is floyd got castillo and judah early where as manny got morales and barrera.. you telling me castillo and judah is ranked higher than morales and barrera?

So Corrales, who was undefeated and top 5 p4p at the time, isn't worth being mentioned on Floyd's resume but Bradley, Thurman, Matthysse and Broner are for Manny? Ok dude, you just lost any credibility you had.

Further, you say Morales, Barrera and JMM kill Floyd's resume yet he lost to Morales and didn't beat him until he dropped down to 130 from 135 (because he was having issues making 130) after being destroyed by Raheem and media had a draw with JMM after being up 10-6 after round 1.

How do those kill Floyd's resume?

[Redsox]

im going to list all of floyd's opponents that i consider worth naming and i'll do the same for pac.

floyd -- castillo, judah, oscar, hatton, marquez, molsey, ortiz, cotto, canelo, maidana, pac, berto

manny -- morales, barrera, marquez (this right here alone already kill floyd's resume), oscar, hatton, cotto, margarito, molsey, bradley, floyd, lucas, broner, thurman.

so you see, pretty much fought the same opponents. the only difference is floyd got castillo and judah early where as manny got morales and barrera.. you telling me castillo and judah is ranked higher than morales and barrera?

diego coralles is far too big of an omission on floyd's list.

[Afi23]

keith thurman really hasn't done much with his career. wins over a faded danny garcia and a prime but limited shawn porter are his best. both of those fights were close.

he was inactive and never really got a head full of steam for me. he lacks identity and a consistency in his style.

Tell me the numerous wars Danny had been into prior to fighting Keith on March 4th, 2017 to be "faded" at the age of 28 (about to turn 29 on March 20th)?

[Spoon23]

Again, the last time Floyd was in a fight anyone thought he might lose was against Chico Corrales. He kept it that way.

I've got Manny well ahead of him in the ATG rankings.

Too far ahead.. Just is.

[New England]

I wasn't insinuating offense bro. I was just confused on why you consider Danny Garcia faded considering he was 28-29 when Thurman fought him with barely any wars. Yeah Porter might be limited but Porter has a great resume himself.

With that said, Thurman has a great resume if you contrast it to the current crop of welterweights not mentioned Pacquiao.

danny's best work was done at 140 lbs. he's the kind stylist that really gets affected by a bump up in weight. some guys are even helped by it. danny was not. he went to 147 for the money and because it was easier to make the weight. at 140 lbs danny had commanded a lot more respect with the left hand and was a potent counter puncher. at 147 he had to work more, and that was not great for his style.

this talk about weight does not even consider that his best night was several years prior to the thurman fight, when he beat an absolutely soaring lucas matthysse! i was at that one. danny's defense and ring generalship was incredibly tight, but he still took some bombs that would have put almost any other 140 lber down. might not be a "war," but it was a hard fight, and it wasn't his only tough test or the only time we saw him get hit, either! danny was not that kind of fighter when he fought thurman. he'd made his money and come up the hard way, and he was being moved and even behaving like a guy who was trying to cash out. arguably lost to harrera, had closer fights than they needed to be with peterson and guerrero, took the salka fight which showed you where his intent was and it was underlined by his dad in interviews.

[hugh grant]

im going to list all of floyd's opponents that i consider worth naming and i'll do the same for pac.

floyd -- castillo, judah, oscar, hatton, marquez, molsey, ortiz, cotto, canelo, maidana, pac, berto

manny -- morales, barrera, marquez (this right here alone already kill floyd's resume), oscar, hatton, cotto, margarito, molsey, bradley, floyd, lucas, broner, thurman.?

Because Pac beat the highlighted quartet 8 times each win is akin to an individual opponent in floyds resume.
Those 8 wins deals with clouds entire resume alone. Pac s additional wins over cotto, hatton, dlh, smm and beating them more dominant don't even need to be mentioned neither does thurman win. Pac s too much depth.

[New England]

Tell me the numerous wars Danny had been into prior to fighting Keith on March 4th, 2017 to be "faded" at the age of 28 (about to turn 29 on March 20th)?

i already responded to that in fairly great detail.

you can also, you know, use your eyes and tell me that he was the same fighter at 140 lbs and after he made all of his money and got f#cking rich. and i'll tell you with my more informed eyes that you were wrong.

how many times have you seen danny fight live?

[FredWreck]

Are you ****ing ******ed?

Camelot wasn’t even close to his prime when he fought Mayweather. He didn’t reach his prime until AFTER his Cotto fight, and Cotto wasn’t easy work for him. Pacquiao TKO’d Cotto.

If Pacquiao fought Carnell at the same time Mayweather fight him? PAC TKO’s him in under 9 rounds. He’s lucky he didn’t face PAC!


Pacquiao has one of the most stellar resumes in boxing of all time. Matter of fact Bradley 1 and Horn aren’t even losses and we know that! So I’m reality out of the 70 or whatever fights he has, he only has 5 losses. With his last 3 fights being victorious, including a TKO.

[The Big Dunn]

Because Pac beat the highlighted quartet 8 times each win is akin to an individual opponent in floyds resume.
Those 8 wins deals with clouds entire resume alone. Pac s additional wins over cotto, hatton, dlh, smm and beating them more dominant don't even need to be mentioned neither does thurman win. Pac s too much depth.

https://www.boxingscene.com/latest-1...debate--141138

Rather, when the resumes and their contexts are lined up side by side, Mayweather has more check marks in his column. His armload of titles is a bit less broad than Pacquiao’s, but the sheer dominance of his performances against high-end opposition at similar weights from 130 to 154 pounds trumps the quantitative lighter-weight advantages of his Filipino nemesis.

[IceTrayDaGang]

So Corrales, who was undefeated and top 5 p4p at the time, isn't worth being mentioned on Floyd's resume but Bradley, Thurman, Matthysse and Broner are for Manny? Ok dude, you just lost any credibility you had.

Further, you say Morales, Barrera and JMM kill Floyd's resume yet he lost to Morales and didn't beat him until he dropped down to 130 from 135 (because he was having issues making 130) after being destroyed by Raheem and media had a draw with JMM after being up 10-6 after round 1.

How do those kill Floyd's resume?

i brought up bradley, broner and lucas for the same reason why i brought up ortiz, maidana, berto!!! them fools are in the same category! so throw in corrales, pac still has the better resume when you look at morales, barrera, marquez. them 3 are automatic ATG status.