Are the Klitschko brothers ATGS?

[The Problem]

I mean they both dominated the heavy scene from 2004 all the way to 2015. Held all titles, and defended multiple times etc.. etc..

[boliodogs]

I think they are. I rate Vitali higher. He only lost twice due to injuries. He lost on a cut eye and lost another fight due to a thrown out shoulder. He was never knocked down and made 11 successful title defenses of the WBC world heavyweight title. His record was 45 wins with 41 KOs. only 2 losses. Wlad was great at his best but he lost by KO a few times and did not have a great chin like Vitali did.

[FinitoxDinamita]

It’s not the easiest to rate the brothers imo. But if anything, Wlad has a better case as a ATG because he has done more in his career. He has shown the ability to overcome adversity and on top of that, he has shown more dimensions to his game after changing up from an aggressive head hunter to a calculating boxer.

Boliodogs made good points about Vitali but I just dont think Vitali did enough to warrant that status.

Wladimir went over 10 years without losing and that’s special. It’s nearly impossible for most fighters to stay undefeated that long, let alone dominate a division and Wlad did that. Doesnt matter how weak the division is. His consistency and body of work is hard to match.

H2H they are nightmares for anybody in the history of Boxing. Can you imagine what Wlad would do to Marciano and FraZier?

Wlad put me to sleep too many times but the fact is, he is an ATG heavyweight.

[kilojay505]

A very simple and straightforward answer is NO

[paulf]

The second Klitschko was no longer a force, the division was red-hot all over the world. There's a reason for that.

Wladimir is an ATG.

[Tom Cruise]

I think they are. I rate Vitali higher. He only lost twice due to injuries. He lost on a cut eye and lost another fight due to a thrown out shoulder. He was never knocked down and made 11 successful title defenses of the WBC world heavyweight title. His record was 45 wins with 41 KOs. only 2 losses. Wlad was great at his best but he lost by KO a few times and did not have a great chin like Vitali did.

Wlad was the one who fought the vast majority of the ranked opposition though and basically cleaned out the era.

Vit’s resume is extremely thin.

[millcitymauler]

Longevity might suggest greatness, but Vlad was the beneficiary of a very weak HW era.

[FinitoxDinamita]

Longevity might suggest greatness, but Vlad was the beneficiary of a very weak HW era.

Fighters can only beat whoever are available to them. It’s not Wlad’s fault that the division was so Shtty.

He faced all the top contenders and beat them.

[Oxbig951]

Yes tbh the only guys they’re behind is tyson fury and Larry Holmes

[boogbx]

Wladimir absolutely is an all time great. Even with the chin, with his ugly losses, he’s guve any HW any era hell. Clearly a ATG heavyweight. Top 10 personally. On size alone I rank fighters like Lewis, Kilitchko, Holmes, Bowe over the 1950’s and before HW. Dempsey, Marciano, Patterson would’ve been crushed by these giants with skill and will.