Is Andre Ward ATG?

[Real King Kong]

Who is Ward's greatest win?

Probably kovalev, who’s best win was a washed up hopkins. The “who has he beaten” discernment went right out the window when ward signed to fight kovalev. Same with froch, who was called a caveman and a bum until ward fought him...then suddenly he was hof material.

Ward did clear out 168 and win the super six, but let’s be real, there was a bunch of B-C level guys in there.

Ward unified in 2 divisions and retired undefeated, which are pretty major accomplishments, so he’s probably a future hof’er...but atg? Absolutely not.

[BoloShot]

most accurate post so far

Now I can confirm that you watch absolutely no boxing outside of your favourite fighters.

[Zaroku]

I’m so pro Ward... I will stfu.

[Zaroku]

Probably kovalev, who’s best win was a washed up hopkins. The “who has he beaten” discernment went right out the window when ward signed to fight kovalev. Same with froch, who was called a caveman and a bum until ward fought him...then suddenly he was hof material.

Ward did clear out 168 and win the super six, but let’s be real, there was a bunch of B-C level guys in there.

Ward unified in 2 divisions and retired undefeated, which are pretty major accomplishments, so he’s probably a future hof’er...but atg? Absolutely not.

You killing flys homie... green. Respect sent.

[aboutfkntime]

Now I can confirm that you watch absolutely no boxing outside of your favourite fighters.

is that what you can confirm? Mr Been-here-for-5-minutes

[aboutfkntime]

Ward was an outstanding fighter, who had an outstanding career

because of his style/skillset, and because of his hugely under-rated mental toughness and ability to adapt..... he would have likely been right in the fight, with most SMW/LHW in history

but ATG is about actual achievements, you actually have to climb those mountains

some guys are unlucky because they fought in a poor era

some guys did not get those pinnacle fights, for whatever reason

Ward retired too early imo, and that 2 years inactivity hurt his roll..... if things had played differently, Ward would likely also have Golovkin, Stevenson, Bivol on his record..... which could add the 2-3 names that it may possibly take to convince historians to look harder

he was a helluva tough outing for everyone who got in the ring with him

just my 2c..... which is worth MUCH more than some of the posts in this thread are worth

and like I said earlier..... fans of a certain fighter who were ashamed when he ducked Andre Ward..... should probably not be allowed to comment in this thread LMAO

[BoloShot]

is that what you can confirm? Mr Been-here-for-5-minutes

Wouldn't have liked to have been here too long, most boxing fans aren't like what you see here, the ****** tension would be too much after multiple years of **** talking with you cu.nts.

[BoloShot]

Ward was an outstanding fighter, who had an outstanding career

because of his style/skillset, and because of his hugely under-rated mental toughness and ability to adapt..... he would have likely been right in the fight, with most SMW/LHW in history

but ATG is about actual achievements, you actually have to climb those mountains

some guys are unlucky because they fought in a poor era

some guys did not get those pinnacle fights, for whatever reason

Ward retired too early imo, and that 2 years inactivity hurt his roll..... if things had played differently, Ward would likely also have Golovkin, Stevenson, Bivol on his record..... which could add the 2-3 names that it may possibly take to convince historians to look harder

he was a helluva tough outing for everyone who got in the ring with him

just my 2c..... which is worth MUCH more than some of the posts in this thread are worth

and like I said earlier..... fans of a certain fighter who were ashamed when he ducked Andre Ward..... should probably not be allowed to comment in this thread LMAO

Also for a guy who's been here for not too long I've been quick to learns how hated you are in particular, who'd want to be in the position where you're such a reject even the internet forum posters think you're a worthless chump?

[aboutfkntime]

Wouldn't have liked to have been here too long, most boxing fans aren't like what you see here, the ****** tension would be too much after multiple years of **** talking with you cu.nts.

I think I can see your problem

[aboutfkntime]

Also for a guy who's been here for not too long I've been quick to learns how hated you are in particular, who'd want to be in the position where you're such a reject even the internet forum posters think you're a worthless chump?

I think I will live

who's ass did you crawl out of..... alt ?