GOATNELO is really UNDEFEATED (his loss vs Floyd does NOT count)

[Mammoth]

Ggg’s “win”?

Exactly..........

[BoxingIsGreat]

Imo , that loss was the best thing that ever happened to him
Why won’t his career last long ?

Two fighters I don't see fighting beyond maximum of 4 fights are: Canelo and Lomachenko. If they push it, they'll lose. (Here I'm talking about only two boxers I care about and follow their careers.)

These guys are 60 in boxing age and their bodies are breaking down. Floyd's breakdown (his hands and knuckles) started at similar age too. He was too skilled to survive and stay undefeated all this time.

These guys are old ring vets. Boxing will retire you. They are rich. I think they are too smart to stay in boxing that long.

I don't see Davis fighting more than four more years, either, if he's lucky. He's already a little punchy. He's a young vet, tho.

My predictions!

[MulaKO]

Two fighters I don't see fighting beyond maximum of 4 fights are: Canelo and Lomachenko. If they push it, they'll lose. (Here I'm talking about only two boxers I care about and follow their careers.)

These guys are 60 in boxing age and their bodies are breaking down. Floyd's breakdown (his hands and knuckles) started at similar age too. He was too skilled to survive and stay undefeated all this time.

These guys are old ring vets. Boxing will retire you. They are rich. I think they are too smart to stay in boxing that long.

I don't see Davis fighting more than four more years, either, if he's lucky. He's already a little punchy. He's a young vet, tho.

My predictions!

I do agree with Loma
Don’t agree with Canelo he seems to have a little more left in the tank
But Davis ? Unless he is getting punchy cool but not because he’s a ring vet

[BoxingIsGreat]

I do agree with Loma
Don’t agree with Canelo he seems to have a little more left in the tank
But Davis ? Unless he is getting punchy cool but not because he’s a ring vet

These guys are getting hit in the head. Ring age is different. Davis has amateur experience as well.

Canelo might retire before Lomachenko. He's set for life. Doesn't need to prove anything. Not sure if Lomachenko would stay long just for the money.

[chirorickyp]

Does not count? He lost every minute of that fight. I didn't know there were Mulligans in boxing. But in CaneloWorld there is. The fights against GGG shouldn't count either. And the roids never happened even though he took them. What he needs is a huge decisive victory over the best. Hasn't happened yet. He has had no convincing beat down of the over that hill Russia guy. He might get it when He's 32 and the G guy is 45 with grey hair. Nevertheless Canelo has a granite chin and can flat out fight and that's what counts the most

[_Rexy_]

So does that mean that Canelo hasn’t done **** after SWW?

[BoxingIsGreat]

So does that mean that Canelo hasn’t done **** after SWW?

To me, Rexy, actually yes. The GGG fights and Jacobs was Canelo just flexing out of his comfort zone. He didn't need to. He was also the smaller guy in both fights, if one has the eyes to see.

Canelo did nothing special after 154, even forget the 155 fights. He was supreme at superwelter. That's more than enough for most fighters. Look at GGG and his one division.

[apollocreed]

Clenelo was 23 or 24 when he faced Mayweather. Mayweather was either 35 or 36. Clenelo was also the naturally bigger guy.
So regardless of catchweight, he was schooled by a smaller guy who was past prime, 12 years older.

[BoloShot]

Does not count? He lost every minute of that fight. I didn't know there were Mulligans in boxing. But in CaneloWorld there is. The fights against GGG shouldn't count either. And the roids never happened even though he took them. What he needs is a huge decisive victory over the best. Hasn't happened yet. He has had no convincing beat down of the over that hill Russia guy. He might get it when He's 32 and the G guy is 45 with grey hair. Nevertheless Canelo has a granite chin and can flat out fight and that's what counts the most

This is how I see him, Canelo is a good fighter, not the best and certainly not as good as his fanboys suggest. Canelo can't beat people convincingly if they have much punch resistance. His style is too explosive to not gas out and drop rounds.

[_Rexy_]

To me, Rexy, actually yes. The GGG fights and Jacobs was Canelo just flexing out of his comfort zone. He didn't need to. He was also the smaller guy in both fights, if one has the eyes to see.

Canelo did nothing special after 154, even forget the 155 fights. He was supreme at superwelter. That's more than enough for most fighters. Look at GGG and his one division.

How is it him just “flexing his comfort muscles” when he can not make the weight? He moved up because he had to, and used ****** clauses to give himself the advantage.

This isn’t like Oscar moving up to 160 to face Sturm and Bhop. Canelo can’t make 154. And he was the bigger man in the first fight.