Comments Thread For: Are Canelo, Golden Boy Headed For Standoff With DAZN?

[Noelanthony]

Totally agree. This forum is filled with so much " ducking" talk that it is sickening. Wilder has fought Ortiz and Fury but is ducking g****fruit head Whyte? Not realistic or possible. Same with Canelo. He just fought Jacobs! How is he ducking anyone? Enough already! To all the clowns on this site! Go to a circus forum and leave boxing alone!

G****fruit head...Lololololol

[PBR Streetgang]

Roc Nation was bankroll for boxing. DAZN is bankroll for sports. Again this is the thing you keep getting wrong. DAZN isn't here to get into boxing. DAZN is here to get into sports.

Yeah, I was discussing DAZN to a buddy and we were talking about the fact that boxing is just one part of thier plan and while I think they have spent handsomely for those boxing programs I think boxing isn't even their ultimate priority. It was their avenue to get into American sports viewership. I think they will ultimately spread into other sports more heavily and challenge ESPN and other sports networks globally.

It may not work. Who know. Similar to Amazon, they are willing to lose heavily early on to take a profit later down the road.

[The Gambler1981]

Cmon man this ain't that complicated ffs. It was just in the news Jay Z is the first hip hop billionaire. If this DAZN guy only had a billion dollars he'd jump off the roof of some building he owns.



Bro I'm telling you facts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAZN

These mfers are in EVERYTHING already. They just need to get into it in the US.

And yes this US market is a whole other animal & probably a lot more competitive & they may fail & I'm not in disagreement with you there. But its not a lock they fail like you keep pinning your hopes on like a 13 year old ugly girl who's hoping the girl who keeps picking on her in class gets hit by a truck walking to school like a weirdo.

Here is the thing the company is based in the UK but has no UK operation. The reason the cost of sports is too high. This was all the the Forbes article about what DAZN was before who was backing them and what they were trying to become I forget the title and author but there was a link to it on here sometime back, was a very interesting article.

If sports in the UK are too expensive, sports in the US dwarfs UK money and has a ton of huge players that all value sports above all else because they need to be watched live. Even with selling the analytics portion which had value because it made money they would only be talking 100 of millions at best probably a couple. However playing with the real sports in the US you need to be talking billions and to go to an unknown app they would have to blow established players out of the water with the money they would offer.

That is a whole lot of bread, I think they came to the US too soon they should have become a juggernaut worldwide then they would have the funds to properly compete. They are doing good around the globe but they still needed years before really trying to come to the US, and compete for major US sports right here.

I still say they are playing the game to sell out, with a silly name like DAZN which screams something they didn't put a ton of thought into because it was never intended to last someone is meant to buy it preferably a major US player which is the only reason to come to the US early in my eyes.

[Kiowhatta]

Idec's fallacious speculative reasoning that Alvarez doesn't want to fight Golovkin a third time because of 'disdain' is rubbish. It just doesn't make sense.

It's more complicated, and my guess is based on Idec's own admission that Alvarez wouldn't be fearful of fighting Golovkin a third time as he has already gone 24 rounds with him - I suspect it's because Golovkin refuses to be caught in the same mousetrap for a third time, knowing he won't get a fair shake in Vegas against the house fighter.

What other possible reason could there be for Alvarez to want to avoid a third fight? What reason does Canelo have other than not getting his own way in negotiations, OR he and ODLH, GBP are playing the same old marination guessing game again, trying to get under Golovkin's skin yet again by making him wait.

Golovkin I imagine is the one who is harbouring the greatest disdain and thus motivation for a third stanza - and that is revenge, for the dubious scoring that left him without a belt, after working for 3 years to get into the position of being on the brink of undisputed champion.

I do blame Golovkin and his now ex-trainer, Abel Sanchez, for allowing themselves to get caught up in the mind games which ultimately lead to Golovkin losing his last prime years chasing and waiting for Canelo to sign on the dotted line.

If I was Golovkin, I would stick to my guns, demanding neutral territory for the fight or fight Andrade for the WBO strap, as well as pursuing a fight with the now confusing WBC 'champ' Jermall Charlo, which would give him far more leverage against Canelo in future negotiations ( provided he get past them, as well as the time it would take would probably take him close to 40 ).

I see Golovkin's position unfortunately as the tougher one from which to negotiate his own destiny; whereas Canelo has always had youth and a crafty promotional team on his side.

It's hard to fathom whether anyone has enough power over Canelo to force him into a third fight if he doesn't want it.
I imagine he is already financially set and not too bothered about that aspect of his future, so we will have to wait and see.

[Kiowhatta]

Cmon man this ain't that complicated ffs. It was just in the news Jay Z is the first hip hop billionaire. If this DAZN guy only had a billion dollars he'd jump off the roof of some building he owns.

Bro I'm telling you facts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAZN

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Wikipedia is not a source of facts. It might actually be facts that are recorded and it is a great reference for information, but in academic circles, and journalist's that take their jobs seriously know that Wikipedia is not a peer-reviewed source.

It's the same with your quote about Jay-Z.

You just simply can't use these casual reference sources as indisputable evidence or truth because they're not fact-checked and in the case of Wikipedia, anyone can log in and change a web page.

If you decide to use these kinds of sources, then you ought to at least declare you are, by predicating or prefixing your sentences with 'according to', or 'based on', signalling that the references you are using are not fact-based or up to proper standards.

Wikipedia does strive to attain being a source of authoritative information, but as it stands it is not.

You will probably flame me for this, and go for it, but these are the rules and regulations of argumentation.

Cheers

[Ray*]

Is this an opinion or fact?

[DaNeutral.]

Is this an opinion or fact?

Its fingers crossed, wishing it happens, hateful opinion. Since when did these goons come with facts?

[Ray*]

Its fingers crossed, wishing it happens, hateful opinion. Since when did these goons come with facts?

Well I was expecting some facts in the article, after reading it I couldn’t see any quotes or genuine facts from any sides, this article mirrored exactly what one of the posters on here wrote last week. One of the LDBC guys on here. I know Keith idec is borderline on close to the other side so am not shocked by this article that has zero facts in it.

[Ray*]

Idec's fallacious speculative reasoning that Alvarez doesn't want to fight Golovkin a third time because of 'disdain' is rubbish. It just doesn't make sense.

It's more complicated, and my guess is based on Idec's own admission that Alvarez wouldn't be fearful of fighting Golovkin a third time as he has already gone 24 rounds with him - I suspect it's because Golovkin refuses to be caught in the same mousetrap for a third time, knowing he won't get a fair shake in Vegas against the house fighter.

What other possible reason could there be for Alvarez to want to avoid a third fight? What reason does Canelo have other than not getting his own way in negotiations, OR he and ODLH, GBP are playing the same old marination guessing game again, trying to get under Golovkin's skin yet again by making him wait.

Golovkin I imagine is the one who is harbouring the greatest disdain and thus motivation for a third stanza - and that is revenge, for the dubious scoring that left him without a belt, after working for 3 years to get into the position of being on the brink of undisputed champion.

I do blame Golovkin and his now ex-trainer, Abel Sanchez, for allowing themselves to get caught up in the mind games which ultimately lead to Golovkin losing his last prime years chasing and waiting for Canelo to sign on the dotted line.

If I was Golovkin, I would stick to my guns, demanding neutral territory for the fight or fight Andrade for the WBO strap, as well as pursuing a fight with the now confusing WBC 'champ' Jermall Charlo, which would give him far more leverage against Canelo in future negotiations ( provided he get past them, as well as the time it would take would probably take him close to 40 ).

I see Golovkin's position unfortunately as the tougher one from which to negotiate his own destiny; whereas Canelo has always had youth and a crafty promotional team on his side.

It's hard to fathom whether anyone has enough power over Canelo to force him into a third fight if he doesn't want it.
I imagine he is already financially set and not too bothered about that aspect of his future, so we will have to wait and see.

You should be the one writing for boxingscene, not Keith idec... A lot of these writers now are paid shills. The respect I have for a lot of them is totally in the gutter.

[Uglytoobad]

Boxing 'idiot'logic; so you say. You should follow a sport that suits you like checkers or connect four, as for for boxing you don't know ****.! You are one ****** idiot. Haters like you just look ******!