Comments Thread For: Haye Not Sure if Joshua Had Proper Sparring For Andy Ruiz

[Eff Pandas]

UK mfers shook over this Joshua lost. First he got KO'd in sparring...now sparring was trash. Lets make up our bs story why Joshua lost & stick with it mfers.

Cool to hear Takam saying Joshua is doing more technical sparring then regular sparring doe. I think regular sparring takes a toll on fighters long term more than his actual career does so this is probably a +EV move for Joshua's overall life span even if you could argue its a negative for him right now (& I think thats arguable).

[Boris Johnson!]

he didn't even spar, got a concussion from the punch bag swinging back and hitting him

[iamboxing]

So many excuses. Isn't part of being a great champion being able to adapt and deal with adversity?

I'm not saying Ruiz isn't good but AJ had no fight left in him after the second KD and he wasn't particularly hurt either.

Remember Ali getting pissed off at Wepner or Holmes fighting back after Shavers nearly took his head off? Where was AJ's championship pride, his will to win and fire...all I saw on his face that night was resignation and worry.

[giant_king]

The rematch will put all this nonsense to rest.ruiz will soon be forgotten the way he was before he faught Joshua

[alexguiness]

Joshua's ability was far, far over-hyped since he was gifted the Olympic Gold.

The reality is that Joshua's only real ability lies in his physicality - his boxing is average at best, his conditioning below average and his heart / commitment below average.

Ruiz, on the other hand is highly skilled, has very decent conditioning and always prepares for war.

Joshua is soft, privilaged and not a very good Champion at all - Eddie Hearn basically bought the IBF belt from bum Charles Martin and Joshua did perform well to win the WBO and WBA straps from Klitschko, but since then he had done nothing of note at all.

First live dog he fights since Klit beats him all over the ring, knocks him down 3 times until he quit.

[P4Pdunny]

Late replacement, probably took the sting out of AJ's preparations and the team underestimated Ruiz a little bit. I've said as well a few times that he was out partying with my brothers friend in Miami.

Even with all this being said, Ruiz caught AJ with a shot countering him that had AJ out from that point. Doesn't matter what happened before then. AJ went to finish when his man was still a live body in there.

[Blond Beast]

Hmmm, not a bad comment from Haye, I was expecting some other self serving WACK EXCUSES to cover for his fellow countrymans loss. His comment was pretty insightful. I also contribute the loss to Joshua not having sparring partners remotely close to Ruiz style & height in camp. Joshua had some unexpected troubles with Takam because he was preparing for Pulev with both camps having just 12 days notice to prepare for each others styles,

A full "camp" is important for many reasons and calling out Ortiz on such short notice and especially Takam with the 12 days - not knowing if their team was fully ready/committed conditioning wise - was advantageous. Ruiz, they thought, had to be at the buffet 24/7 after winning against Dimitrenko, "theyres no way this guy (looking like that) could be that committed during the off season."

Ruiz couldve been in mexico on the beach, vacationing enjoying his win - saying "yes" to Hearn simply for the payday. Hearns ploy backfired & came full circle when they decided on sticking with Snicker Man. When Team-Hearn saw the excess "fat" on Ruizs frame, they were like, "yes! he's bloody perfect, he can box, we'll pick this chap, he's only lost once, and should gas out in 4/5 rnds against Joshuas fast pace and power!"

Right. I knew little of Ruiz since I didn’t see the Parker fight. My brother said he will do a lot better than people expect. When Ruiz came in heavy and explained that it was on purpose in case AJ leaned on him, I thought it was an excuse I heard too many times. He was also sucking in his stomach at the weigh in. Maybe he did train hard as hell or maybe he didn’t even have to? If he weighs a lot more than the first fight, I wonder what he will say? Will only matter if he loses though.

[Bashhh]

Neither did ruiz. Ruiz was sitting on his ass eating snickers and doritos while Joshua was in camp preparing and conditioning his body for a fight with a chemist pumping his ass full of best "supplements" and "nutrition" that money can buy.

[lion33lit]

Right. I knew little of Ruiz since I didn’t see the Parker fight. My brother said he will do a lot better than people expect. When Ruiz came in heavy and explained that it was on purpose in case AJ leaned on him, I thought it was an excuse I heard too many times. He was also sucking in his stomach at the weigh in. Maybe he did train hard as hell or maybe he didn’t even have to? If he weighs a lot more than the first fight, I wonder what he will say? Will only matter if he loses though.

Lol, I saw him sucking in that stomach too. His dad said he trained really hard, so I'm not too surprised he did what he did with a fathers influence, and with my take on how I've always felt about Joshuas robotic style

Since I saw Ruiz dismantle the 1st robot on FOX, I really didnt give him too much credit, but when I went on youtube to check for a more meaningful win from him, I was surprised when I saw him give Parker the business in a competitive matchup.

Imo, Joshua can beat Ruiz if he loses some weight and fights tall. Ruiz can't "leap" like a young Tyson with all that Snicker weight to catch Joshua if he fights tall....especially if Ruiz stays on his junk food diet gaining weight....he must not be eating right if he looks like Mr. Carbohydrate with all that excess fat on his frame....time will tell, but "if he weighs a lot more than the 1st fight" he's gonna go into a diabetic coma....in other words, its not a good idea for Ruiz if Joshua fights smarter and more disciplined....

[Blond Beast]

Lol, I saw him sucking in that stomach too. His dad said he trained really hard, so I'm not too surprised he did what he did with a fathers influence, and with my take on how I've always felt about Joshuas robotic style

Since I saw Ruiz dismantle the 1st robot on FOX, I really didnt give him too much credit, but when I went on youtube to check for a more meaningful win from him, I was surprised when I saw him give Parker the business in a competitive matchup.

Imo, Joshua can beat Ruiz if he loses some weight and fights tall. Ruiz can't "leap" like a young Tyson with all that Snicker weight to catch Joshua if he fights tall....especially if Ruiz stays on his junk food diet gaining weight....he must not be eating right if he looks like Mr. Carbohydrate with all that excess fat on his frame....time will tell, but "if he weighs a lot more than the 1st fight" he's gonna go into a diabetic coma....in other words, its not a good idea for Ruiz if Joshua fights smarter and more disciplined....

I think ur exactly right. I don’t try to judge a guys skills, speed, power, stamina based on his physique. I’ve seen all types. But I will judge a guy compared to what he looked like last time. I’d love to see fighters get their body fat tested each fight. I just hate the “in case he leans on me” answer to have added weight. It’s like a running joke. U said it, if Ruiz comes in heavier it will look bad. If he loses it will affect his reputation even if it’s close, cause we will assume he coulda been better. I don’t know if AJ can fight tall? But I hear yeah there was mere seconds between Ruiz KD and AJ KD so who knows how differently it would have been? We will see. AJ needs to be hyper aware in there. Prolly fight safe and boring. Will be interesting if he hurts Ruiz.